"Belgian Imperial Stout" style question

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  1. Bierman9

    Bierman9 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,313) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
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    One of my local breweries has a beer which they describe on their web as such, below: What style should it go under here on BA? Thnx
    "Belgian imperial stout with dark chocolate notes"

     
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    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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  3. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Okay, Belgium is well renowned all around the world for a wide variety of styles and hundreds of outstanding breweries and thousands of very worthy beers, I’m not sure under which style this will fall on BA.

    @Todd? American Imp stout?

    I mean it’s up to the brewer to label their beers the style they want based on recipes and ingredients?
     
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  4. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I see some are put under American Imperial Stout with a Belgian reference under notes.
     
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  5. defunksta

    defunksta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,164) Jan 18, 2019 Wisconsin
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    Not sure, maybe it drinks similar to a Belgian Quad?
     
  6. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,857) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    I say put it under Imperial Stout with complete notes
     
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    Bierman9 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,313) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
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    No, has lots of roasty, choco notes. No dark fruit typical to a Quad....

    Cheers!
     
  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    It's not really that tricky. Most "Belgian" stouts are classified in one of the various stout categories here. There isn't total science behind which stout category to pick - just go with the one that seems to fit the best. After all, these beers are being marketed as stouts. Sometimes you'll see such beers in the strong dark Belgian category... which could work. One can decide if the character of the beer leans more "stout" or more "dark Belgian" when deciding between those categories, but it's not like there's a universal cut-off that everyone will agree on. Ask yourself if the beer is more Guinness Foreign Extra or more Abt 12. (It seems like you've answered that above @Bierman9 ) Aim for best category rather than perfect.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Dave, given those details I would place this beer into one of the Imperial Stout categories on BA. Which one to choose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Cheers!
     
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  10. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    American Imperial Stout is the go-to when in doubt, but I've seen quite a few strong Belgian Stouts dropped into Russian Imperial Stout over the years. Without knowing more, I'm leaning toward the latter.
     
  11. HopBelT

    HopBelT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,619) Mar 18, 2014 Belgium
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    I second to that. Labelling beer as 'Belgian Imperial Stout' is marketing...
     
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  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    "Russian imperial stout" is also marketing. I'm not sure why that matters.
     
  13. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Allagash's North Sky is a “Belgian-inspired stout” using their house yeast and it's listed under Stout - English.
    Van Steenberge's Gulden Draak Imperial Stout (buy it if you see it) uses their Belgian yeast and is listed under Stout - Russian Imperial
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Bill, are you able to find this beer in smaller (e.g., 11.2 ounce) bottles?

    Cheers!
     
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    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    The only place I've seen them is in the Steenberge variety pack, don't recall if they were 12oz or 11.2. Ended up buying two variety packs.
     
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    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  17. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Nov 4, 2015 New York
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    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for your tip.

    I do have a Wegman's near me (I grocery shopped there earlier today) but since beer distribution is a State (and local) thing they may have it (or not). I will check next time I am there.

    Cheers!
     
  19. bobv

    bobv Grand Pooh-Bah (5,319) Feb 3, 2009 Vermont
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    Happy 20th!
     
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  20. HopBelT

    HopBelT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,619) Mar 18, 2014 Belgium
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    That is not marketing, it's historical. The British were brewing a strong stout for the Russian market. It was a popular drink amongst the nobles in the 1700s. Espescially Tsarina Catharina II was a fan. Hence 'Russian' and 'Imperial'.
     
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