Winter IPA

How far south and what density of Indianaism is acceptable?

 

Well I think my sister moved to st John, so saints abound! Maybe I'm in the wheelhouse

 

In the US, the debate within the industry about which yeast is, by definition, necessary to produce lager beer or ales was going on well before Prohibition and picked up after Repeal, as the Federal government re-wrote alcoholic beverage laws and set out to define certain beer types. The earliest "Ale" definition, by the newly created Federal Alcohol Administration (1934) was:

Following suggestions from the Special Ale Committee (set up by the United States Brewers Association but also containing members affiliated with other US brewers organizations, representing brewers who produced 90% of US ales), which objected to both the minimum limit of 5% abv and the requirement of top fermentation, Federal Alcohol Administrator Williams amended the act in 1938 to read:

Thus deleting the type of yeast requirement, a change supported by well known brewing industry chemists like Leo Wallerstein and Arnold and Robert Wahl, and numerous (but not all) ale brewers who continued to top ferment their ales yet did not object to other brewers using lager yeast. The lack of a yeast type requirement continues legal definition continues in the Current TTB definition:

Many of the US's most well-known ales (Rainier, Schoenling, McSorley's, Black Horse [both Koch and Metropolis], Lord Chesterfield and in all probability the current Ballantine XXX brewed for Pabst by Molson Coors) dating from before the craft era were so-called Bastard Ales:

Well, they've had it in Canada for decades - Labatt IPA (of which M. Jackson wrote "this...turns out, disappointingly, to be an ale of the North American golden type..." - defunct I guess?) and Alexander Keith's IPA "blonde ale - 5% - 13 IBUs".

But then most of the pre-craft US IPAs were likely brewed with adjuncts, as well - the longest-lived, Ballantine India Pale Ale (P. Ballantine & Sons), was brewed with corn grits, but was decidedly a classic IPA - between 7-8% abv and estimated IBU's of 50-60.

 

St. John? Not an Illinois 'burb I've heard of, Indiana? If she's in Illinois, I bet she's in St. Charles... epicenter.

I hear Riverlands is setting up a collab with Wahlburgers. @FBarber

 

Re: posts here from @RBCBrams17,
I'm not a brewer of any kind, but I gotta say that I find the perspectives of a commercial brewer really insightful in discussions like this. I wish there was an option for there to be a voluntary "brewer" banner under the poster's name like there are for things like "moderator" or "trader" or "society". But maybe that is a discussion for a different forum/thread.

 

There is a banner tag for 'Industry' but I don't know how to go about getting it. ' Brewer' would be even better.