Barleywine Appreciation Thread (2022)

Discussion in 'The Bar' started by DIM, Jan 4, 2022.

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Which type of Barleywine do you prefer?

  1. American

    97 vote(s)
    17.0%
  2. English

    295 vote(s)
    51.8%
  3. That's like asking me to choose my favorite child, I love them all!

    162 vote(s)
    28.5%
  4. Neither, if Barleywine is life then life has no meaning.

    15 vote(s)
    2.6%
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  1. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I’ve used the ~25 year old CAMRA published homebrew book (Wheeler/Protz) for years to make traditional cask ales. While I’ve never brewed the Belhaven 90 Shilling recipe from this resource (aka Wee Heavy.. aka Scottish Ale) - it does call for small amounts of black malt. Perhaps this is simply a substitute for brewers coloring which wasn’t available to home brewers back in the 80s/90s?
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  2. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    One way that would be interesting is to do it blind. See if you can detect the age. I have done this once and it was really fun. I need to do it again!
     
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  3. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I've done verticals for Bigfoot over a period of days. Palate fatigue is real and Bigfoot is a bruiser. For one night have plenty of pretzels and water and take your time. Maybe set up blind tastings for each other? Have fun and please report back!

    Edit, @Beersnake1 beat me to it!
     
  4. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    The first taste is obviously boozy and cloying, but it really wasn't. It actually turned out to be a pretty good beer.
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  5. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I haven't mentioned them because I haven't had any. It took me a long time to find a trader who wasn't a stickler about "trade value" on those cans. Very much looking forward to trying some of Revolution's work.
     
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  6. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I will give you very specific suggestions, but based on vertical tastings I've seen from others not everyone would agree with them. For me, these would be a must:

    1) Add a newly released 2022 Bigfoot and conduct the tasting sooner rather than later. You might be tempted to add a 2020 or '21 to keep your age gaps even, but definitely go with a fresh '22 for contrast. Don't add any other "vintages" after that… 4 is enough.
    2) If you add the 2022, limit the amount of people in the tasting to 3 tops (but 2 is even better). In my opinion, tastings should involve a decent serving size of each beer... even for barley wines. There's little point in doing this and giving people a 2-3oz pour of each beer.
    3) Do the tasting blind. I don't understand why this isn't more common. It's an ideal circumstance for a blind tasting... and certainly a more rewarding way of doing a vertical.
    4) Post your results on BA. (But that's really just a request) :slight_smile:
     
  7. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    That's the only Harvest variant that I'm happy to buy, but it's clearly not something I'd prefer more than regular Harvest Ale. I enjoy it and some really like it but that beer inspires a lot of hate as well.
    That's the first time I'm seeing that variety of "Demon." I wonder if it's a lager.
     
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  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Jeff quotes your work, so I was surprised when I read his writing on that. If you look at just strong ale rather than ale brewing in general, did Scottish brewers tend to favor lower attenuation for their strong ales compared to English brewers?
     
  9. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    I only reviewed the history sections. I commented, but had no part in the final decisions.

    Pretty sure that I told Gordon how much I hated the term Wee Heavy.
     
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  10. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Here you have the problem with strong beers which had a secondary fermentation. Brewing records don't give you a true FG. Just the racking gravity. With many Scottish beers, it's even worse as the last gravity they list is the cleansing gravity, which is even higher.

    Hang on, need to consult a spreadsheet. Mostly around 70% apparent, some over 80%.
     
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  11. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    This is a great one - just drinking my first one. This one features American and Belgian malts. Categorized as an English barleywine. I don't see anything on the Revolution website about being categorized as an American or English barleywine, but the latter is the designation received on BA.

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  12. oberon

    oberon Grand Pooh-Bah (4,138) Feb 12, 2002 North Carolina
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    I like the big brash hops and booze that the American style brings,it's one of the styles that got me hooked to craft beer.
     
  13. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    It’s the bestest most deliciousest drink in the world!
     
  14. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    Fantastic story! Everyone needs one of those “lived to tell” raucous days.
     
  15. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    My first barleywine was Old Guardian, or Cortex Wrecker as a fellow sot described it. This was before I was introduced to the lovely concept of cellaring beer and Stone *really* has to bring it back.
     
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  16. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    Store around me has a bunch on the shelf. Spending is under scrutiny this month…time for carpet.
     
  17. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    Excellent protocol!
     
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  18. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    I thought the last offering was a bit too subdued, but I bought six to age and prove myself wrong. The one from the previous round was fantastic, as I recall.
     
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  19. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    New York Beer Project made Thee Barleywine, aged in Jim Beam barrels that was killer. Thin Man just released one aged in Four Roses barrels which is mellow and tasty. I scored some Mortalis BA Bacchus that was also aged in Four Roses…also delicious. Popped ADWTD TO for my 30th wedding anniversary that was stupendous, even the wife liked it. I need to that recipe from NYBP if they’re really never going to make it again. Barley
    Wine Is Life!
     
  20. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    Bear Temper…yes, that one is great. GI BCBBW was phenomenal…yes yes yes!
     
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