Do you check for freshness?

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  1. G_Harn78

    G_Harn78 Aspirant (252) Mar 13, 2020 California

    100% of the time. Everyone should demand it if they are willing to pay a premium price. I’ve let breweries know and they don’t seem to really care or blame the distributor.
     
  2. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Could not agree more Jack. Because of this, many (most?) wholesalers and retailers feel little incentive to rotate inventory/stock. Most customers don't bother to check the freshness date, and most aren't aware that freshness is even a "thing". Maybe they'll recognize that something is "off" about the beer they purchase, which more than likely they'll assume is because the brewery in question just made a crappy batch of beer.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And you might think the brewery would have a concern here. A consumer buys their beer and because it is old it tastes like crap and the consumed says to themselves "I will never buy beer from Brewery X since they suck".

    But Brewery X just continues to not date their beers (and wonders why continuing sales are not good?).

    Cheers!
     
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  4. Riff

    Riff Pooh-Bah (1,673) May 12, 2016 Virginia
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    Pretty much always.
     
  5. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Grand Pooh-Bah (5,873) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    Nothing worse than walking away empty handed after first gasping at all the IPAs available in front of you. It's sad. So many people are going to try those older beers 'once' only to be be turned off and never try them again. I always check the dates.
     
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  6. Johnnysocko64

    Johnnysocko64 Initiate (32) Dec 10, 2021

    My son is very vocal about freshness. This after ive drank truckloads over the years without giving it a 2nd thought. Too much of a pita to try and find dates when I'm shopping and too blind to read them. I may check after the fact when tastes like crap if i can find my magnifying glass. Gee maybe should have checked the date?
     
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  7. BillAfromSoCal

    BillAfromSoCal Pooh-Bah (2,415) Aug 24, 2020 California
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    I drink almost exclusively stouts and IPAs. I always check the IPSAs. Seldom the stouts, unless I am at an unfamiliar retailer with dust on the shelves. If I age stuff it will be under my controlled conditions, not because they sat on some shelf at room temp for a year.
     
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  8. BillAfromSoCal

    BillAfromSoCal Pooh-Bah (2,415) Aug 24, 2020 California
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    You may not realize that there actually is a real "Brewery X" in SoCal and they do date their beer, many of which are excellent. You may have to change your future reference to a hypothetical brewery by calling it "Brewery XYZ"
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yup, did not know.

    But I am pretty sure you understood me here.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. thebeeremptor

    thebeeremptor Pundit (764) Aug 12, 2018 California
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    Most of my beer buying these days comes direct from the source (going straight to the taproom or having it delivered to me) or from one store in particular that I trust has fresh beer as they have very limited, refrigerated-only space so they have to clear things out to make room for new product, which is how beer is supposed to be run. I don't check any more from either of those but for somewhere new, I check 90% of the time, especially if it's a style that should be enjoyed as fresh as possible.

    I've given similar responses in other threads pertaining to this subject but here we go...
    Could be one or a combination of things happening here: distributor for those particular beers is negligent/irresponsible in ensuring OOCs don't get sent out, fresher beer is being prioritized for stores that have more turnover overall or for those particular beers, or (and this is the least likely since I'm purely speculating; I'm not sure how buying works in grocery chains) they're cut a discount for less fresh product but charge MSRP.

    I'll give an example: Golden Road has a suggested shelf-life on many of their beers for about four months. I can't count the number of times I've been sent Golden Road beer a month prior to expiration, which with my luck, always seems to coincide with me having to bulk out for a display.

    I've had beer sent to my store that was already expired or was at the very end of its shelf-life. So the store is maybe not at fault here. I've wrongly assumed in the situations where it's happened to me that the supplier/distributor did their due diligence and made sure what they were sending me was appropriate to sell.
     
  11. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    This. When i venture to western VA I stop at Greenwood Grocer in Crozet. During COVID they had a similar arrangement. Refused to buy beer there until they opened back up normally. Thankfully they did.
     
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  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, except how would the breweries know that is why their sales or growth rate are down? Most don't have the money to do any sort of sophisticated market research. They might just decide: "More cartoon labels! New "limited" beers! Goofier names! More flavors! Even more haze!"
     
  13. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    Yes and no. For myself, I’m a little more lax. I’ll check and buy things that are reasonably fresh. I generally buy directly from breweries though and, because I follow them on IG, I generally have a sense of when a beer was canned/bottled without checking the can/bottle itself.

    For BIFs and trades, I’m far more vigilant.
     
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  14. AlfromPA

    AlfromPA Zealot (613) Dec 9, 2021 Colorado

    I always check. This time of year a lot less beer is being sold (especially lagers/pilsners) and what's left is often old. I'm looking for things to improve in a month or so. I try to avoid dateless cans but sometimes I'm curious... and then don't know if I'm getting old stuff and it's different from the "ideal" taste...
     
  15. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Well good. Hopefully the three new TW stores within my distribution area get all the old beer and my shop gets the fresh stuff. :wink:
     
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  16. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    While I can understand how this could happen, I'm not sure why the store wouldn't be at least partially responsible for this. Shouldn't they be checking incoming product to make sure it's not out of code? Especially if this is "one of those things" that happens from time to time.

    Like you, I've posted this next story in previous, similar threads.

    My wife and I spend her birthday each year on the Mendocino coast (we're at the tale end of this year's trip in fact). Invariably, we visit this great taphouse/pizza parlor called Piaci in Ft. Bragg. In addition to a solid taplist, they also have a great selection of bottled stuff. Most of it is high octane beer that can handle a little bottle age. However, one year they had a DIPA from Deschutes that I hadn't seen in a while, and wasn't aware Deschutes was even making any more. So I asked the proprietor about it. He told me he had just gotten it in a couple weeks ago and so could assure me it was fresh. I told him that was great news, but could I take a look at the label first to check the "enjoy by" date. Sure enough, the beer was roughly 10 months past that date. The proprietor was understandably pissed, for a variety of different reasons. First, he had been unaware that Deschutes beers even had an enjoy by date on the label. Next, he told me that he felt he had a good relationship with the local rep and considered him a friend. I could tell he was now reassessing that relationship, wondering if this was an innocent mistake on the part of the rep or was intentional. He also seemed pissed off at me, thinking now he would likely have to try to return the beer to the distributor, seeing as how he was now aware that the beer was out of code (though I could tell he was mulling over whether he could get away with just keeping it and trying to sell it. I think he knew that most of his regular clientele would likely be as unaware as he was about the "enjoy by" date on the label.).

    At no point did I get the impression that he felt he was in any way responsible for obtaining and trying to sell out of code beer. I found that to be an interesting reaction.
     
  17. BruChef

    BruChef Maven (1,277) Nov 8, 2009 New York
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    Unfortunately, They still might’ve just gotten it in though.
     
  18. NickTheGreat

    NickTheGreat Maven (1,470) Oct 28, 2010 Iowa
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    Yes of course. I check the dates on all food I buy and beer is no different. Probably more important than a bag of chips or can of green beans.

    Sometimes I long for the days when I could just buy a case of beer every so often without worrying about it so much. It took 15 seconds. Heck, I could just tell my wife to do it.

    Ok I don't really long for those days, but it was sure easier.
     
  19. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I believed the owner. I think he really did just get it in. That seemed to be part of the reason he so pissed off. Either intentionally or by accident, the distributor had pawned off old beer on him.
     
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If the Wholesale Distributors dump their old beer at the other three TW stores first before hitting your TW store:

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