Malt Bombs

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JZH1000, Feb 22, 2022.

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  1. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    I gotta pick up The Reverend next time I head up there. Seeing a lot of good options they have available right now, might need to go there soon
     
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  2. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,380) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    The only thing that could ruin doppelbocks for me is if it started trending toward pastry doppelbocks.
     
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  3. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Well, sure it does -- the yeast adds a ton of flavor that affects the perception of hop and malt flavor -- unlike few other beers.
    Don't forget, Weizens use a lot of barley malt that blends with all of the above -- including those unique yeast esters.

    And yeah, if you "had" to categorize a Weizen between hoppy or malty, you'd have to lean toward malty. But as @SFACRKnight points out, it's really the yeast that characterizes the style (Hefe, after all. :slight_smile:).
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yikes!

    I have yet to see a Pastry Doppelbock so this thought never occurred to me (before).

    I did a quick review of the top rated Doppelbocks to discover at 15:

    “Lickinghole Creek Craft Brewery - German Chocolate Cake - Bourbon Barrel-Aged

    Bourbon Barrel German Chocolate Cake is LCCB’s first example of a barrel aged lager. Lagers ferment for longer periods of time than ales and at much colder temperatures. Bourbon Barrel German Chocolate Cake is dark in color and deliciously innovative. Brewed with German Specialty Grains and German Hops, we aged it in Kentucky Bourbon Barrels and cold conditioned it on coconut, pecans, coco nibs and vanilla.”

    It would be my personal preference that the addition of flavorings does not become a "trend" for Doppelbocks but considering the aspect that craft beer drinkers continuously seem to demand 'moar' it just might be the 'next shiny new thing'!?! :grimacing:

    Cheers!
     
  5. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    OMFG -- Don't, just DON'T! :scream:
     
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  6. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Actually haven't had that beer. I'll have to check it out. Thanks!
     
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  7. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    It's been out a while, hope you can find it -- it's worth the hunt!
     
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  8. UrbanCaveman

    UrbanCaveman Pooh-Bah (1,866) Sep 30, 2014 Ohio
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    It's not a pastry doppelbock, but Jackie O's Convex Refraction was a lovely delight of a bourbon barrel doppelbock with an exquisite malt bill. If I could do that one as a daily drinker, I would.
     
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  9. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    A doppelbock aged on Mallo Cups would be the balls!
     
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  10. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    Referring to IPAs as a trend is a tired and unoriginal statement at this point. Whether they continue to dominate the landscape remains to be seen, but like it or not, they are here to stay. Drink what you like without trying to diminish other styles in the process. We do that too often. Cheers.
     
  11. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Malty beers are what got me into craft beer and what I enjoy most. For a bit I drank way more hops but even then nothing quite hit the spot like a smooth, malty beer. It's also the type of thing that you can hand me at anytime and I'll be happy vs hops, where if I'm not in the mood it can be borderline undrinkable.

    Malts can be crowd pleasers too and I shared many high ABV BA Stouts or Dopplebocks with people who don't usually like beer/craft beer and they were always a hit.
     
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  12. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,380) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    I concur. That beer is solid!
     
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  13. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Grand Pooh-Bah (5,343) Dec 11, 2006 California
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    I love malty beers. Any time, any place. First or last beer of a session. Sierra Nevada Celebration and Founders Centennial are favorites. But moving past IPA’s, I love a good Brown Ale, Winter Warmer, Red Ale… I can’t recall the brewery, but not too long ago my local shop had a Bitter (brewed by an American brewery), and I had to hop on it and it was great. I’m all for more malts.
     
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  14. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I don’t think the OP was in any way denigrating IPAs or calling IPAs a trend (I think he was referring to the current trend of double, triple, quadruple dry hopping of IPAs causing the flavor of most IPAs to be almost completely from the hops with little impact from the malts vs. the IPAs of 10+ years ago where there were a lot more malt flavors present in IPAs).

    I didn’t see this thread in any way diminishing any styles in general or particular but rather trying to give some love to styles that are not currently getting as much “love” from the masses.
     
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  15. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Go get yourself some Aventinus weizenbock. You can thank me later.
     
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  16. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    But he's right, the intricacies of Hefeweizen *are* difficult to map out -- Aventinus especially.

    From the big yeast esters to the rich, chewy malts, to the right hit of warming alcohol -- that beer always amazes me every time I revisit. It's a big, complicated symphony of aromas and flavors.

    If only I'd see it fresh more often. :confused:

    (How can a beer be rated World Class and my 4.8 review still produces a +10.9 rDev? Something off there.)
     
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  17. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    Ipswich Oatmeal Stout anyone?
     
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  18. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I love malty beers as well as IPA and other styles. I just had a Hibernation from 2020 and it was a beer I could drink every day.

    Enjoy
     
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  19. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    This is where I've been lately. Pilsner drew me into the world of lagers since the flavors were somewhat analogous to the hoppy ales I was drinking almost exclusively at the time, but anymore if I'm looking for a pale lager I want one that showcases the malts. I picked up some 11° czech amber lager from urban roots recently and that's really been tickling my fancy. This real hip cat I know also hooked me up with some bierstadt helles and hot damn could I drink that by the liter. My favorite bar regularly stock weihenstefaner original on tap as well. Wonderful expression of the goodness of malted barely
     
  20. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    In the seventies, there were many Scottish Ales, the 70s era Gosser (Maerzen), and Munich Fest beers were malty and great, maybe too malty for my palate back then. Even the 70s era Pabst Blue Ribbon was malt forward. Today not too many malty beers to choose from among traditional styles. They've been replaced by sweetened and fruited styles.
     
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