Are 16oz cans the future?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Miles_in_beer_city, Feb 23, 2022.

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  1. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Yeah, the average craft consumer is not counting nickels. Everyone seems to be floating concepts out there and some breweries do need to be more profitable in this very competitive marketplace. Branding is less stable than ever. Craft beer consumers are super fickle about their loyalties and jump all over the place in choosing between brands.
     
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  2. defunksta

    defunksta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,164) Jan 18, 2019 Wisconsin
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    I tend to prefer buying the 12oz lower quantities so you can enjoy more of a variety in a sitting as others have mentioned. Now if it's 16oz x4 pack versus 12oz 6 pack, then you're selling 64oz versus 72 oz, so less beer for potentially the same price. Also, I think that there has come to be an expectatio (credit the NEIPA community) that 16oz beers are higher quality beers.
    So if you can upcharge a 4 pack 16z (64oz) rather than try to sell 72oz in a 6-pack (which also accrues higher bottling/canning cost for materials), then I see no reason why 16oz cans wouldn't be the future.
    Personally prefer the 6 pack, but beer bottled in a 6 pack and wine bottled in 750mL single bottle is quite a difference. I suspect eventually we're headed toward somewhere in between the two.
     
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  3. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    This has been raised before, and I'm quite happy that this trend, while seemingly ubiquitous, seems to be reversing course a bit.

    The beer I'm drinking now is Barrel Aged Ten Fidy, a 12.5% brew that, when released, was available only on tap or in stovepipes. That's a ridiculous quantity of potent, slow-sipping beer. But now it's available in 12 ounce cans, which is a much more agreeable format for that beer.

    IPAs and, to an extent, craft beer across styles, seem to be favoring the 16 ounce can format, and in a lot of cases, that's fine. Anything more extreme, however - whether in terms of ABV, massive hop rates, sweetness, or added ingredients - benefits from smaller serving sizes (and reduced coincident palate fatigue), and I am seeing more of that coming back. Basically, it's a return to form.

    I like the availability of so many beers in 16 ounce cans, but I'm a big fan of breweries that don't feel compelled to put everything in that format.
     
  4. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    Lol - I really thought this was an old revived thread from 2015. I miss 12 oz bottles and cans especially for the bigger abv beers.
     
  5. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    BA Stouts in 16oz format are stupid. I prefer something i can put a stopper in. El Segundo just swapped their 12oz bottle format of their BBA stout and Bwine to 16oz cans without changing their price, but i have 0 desire of buying that shit. I dont want something i cant put a bottle stopper.
     
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  6. ABrown08

    ABrown08 Initiate (86) Nov 16, 2021 Indiana

    If I'm buying cans, it's gonna be 16 oz cans, since I won't drink beer from a can. The 16 oz cans filI my beer glass perfectly. I just bought 24 Budweiser 16 oz cans last week.
     
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  7. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    The only ones I can think of are Monucky Cold Snacks and Pizza Port offerings sometimes.
    Also they’re some of the cheapest craft beers around.
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  8. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    Yes, as long as people continue to be willing to spend the same (or more) for a 4 pack of 16oz cans (64 oz of beer) than a 6 pack of 12oz (72 oz) cans.

    Only an 8oz difference, but it adds up in a commercial brewery.
     
  9. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    But not from the same brewery. Breweries that charge more for their beer tend to sell in 4x16oz or single bottles/ cans, but breweries that sell their beers in 12 and 16 oz options don't tend to charge more for the 16 oz format. And there are breweries (pizza port, Bierstadt, Jack's abby) that sell 16 oz cans at very reasonable prices.

    The pint can doesn't have the same built in price premium that the 22 oz bottle does/ did
     
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  10. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    I didn't think I'd miss the days of rows and rows of overpriced 22 oz bottles in the trendier beer stores. But I do miss having the cap back on tightly in the fridge with yesterday's half a DIPA, the two IPAs I had short snorts from for comparing hops, and that funny tasting Scotch Ale I thought I'd give another chance. All nicely carbonated for the next go-round.
     
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  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Months ago i asked a local brewer if the can shortage was a problem for him. He said no problem, as his canning line was set up for 16 oz. cans and he could get all he wanted. He said if he was using 12 oz cans he would have a big headache.

    So maybe breweries are moving to a more available format?
     
  12. BruChef

    BruChef Maven (1,277) Nov 8, 2009 New York
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    Some of Jacks Abbeys beers used to be in 6x16 format up until just a couple years ago.
     
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  13. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I've been getting mixed packs lately and those still use 12oz cans, even if the same beers are available in separate 16oz 4packs (Jack's Abby, Zero Gravity, Von Trapp...). Both of these options work for me.
     
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  14. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I was so bummed when I grabbed a four pack of House Lager expecting it to be a six pack. I was like, "Damn, they finally caught on!"
     
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  15. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I like the 16oz format as they fill an Imperial pint perfectly with room for head. 12 oz'ers look pitiful in an Imperial pint glass.
    My only bitch is that most come in 4pks, not 6'ers & they cost too damn much.
    I really don't get the hate on bombers.
    It's only 5 more ounces than a pint.
    Just drink it you wussies. Or, get a stopper & finish it the next day.
    If you can't finish it in one sitting, maybe you shouldn't have bought that beer?
    Live long the Bomber!
    Put pounders in 6 pks!
     
  16. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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  17. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    I haven't seen any breweries who offer the same beer in multiple sizes, at least not around here. That makes it hard to compare packaging prices.
    I almost always prefer a 12 oz beer.
     
  18. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I don't drink often. I prefer a 4x of pints because there are less packages to worry about "getting to". Second, 12 oz is never enough of ANY style. 16 oz is a perfect size for me. And c. I don't care about cool.

    Edit. I recall pounders of copper legend I. Six packs for the same price as SN oktoberfest six packs. Now whos getting stingy with their 355ml bullshit? :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  19. md3kcn

    md3kcn Savant (1,130) Feb 4, 2021 North Carolina
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    For convenience sake, I love them. Nothing like going to the nearest grocery store and picking up a 16oz Jai Alai for under $2 while I'm out and about!
     
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  20. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    The 3 that I know of for sure are Sierra Nevada, Bells, and North Coast. In all of those cases the price per oz is effectively identical. Sometimes a particular format will be on sale making it the cheaper option.

    Interestingly, I actually noticed that the store I was at last night had old Rasputin in single pint cans and bombers. The bombers were 7c/oz more expensive than the pint can.

    Bombers seem to have some kind of inherent cost that breweries cannot get out of. Pint cans don't have this apparent issue
     
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