NBS BIF #15 Hints and Hauls: Was it Over When the Canadians Bombed BIF #14? HELL NO!

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  1. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    This is great!

    My eye for the colours is not great, but I think I’m hovering pretty close to 0.0% rDev. I feel as though my ratings have trended higher over time here because better beer is more widely available. I’m guessing that might be the case for many now that I’ve seen this. Early on, I drank a lot of beers that I’d place in the 3.5 - 3.75 range. Now, most seem to land around 3.9 - 4.3 or so, at least that is my impression. The average beer I try is better than it was 8 years ago and I haven’t adjusted what my impression of ‘average’ is to compensate.
     
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  2. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    "phish" only appears to be mentioned in anyone's written reviews when they're thanking you for the beer you sent them. :slight_smile:

    Personally, I feel this is the right attitude. I've had it twice on tap way back when you could get Russian River here in Washington. It's excellent...but there's a lot of excellent out there.
     
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  3. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    I think much the same. Think back to the average IPA you were likely to find on tap, say, 10 years ago. Redhook Longhammer? Stone IPA? Solid enough.

    But when Enjoy By came out, it was hailed as a Heady killer by some, despite being distributed far greater than Heady (albeit still fairly limited at the time).

    Nowadays, even your standard sports bar is likely to offer an IPA much better than Longhammer. Jai Alai is nearly automatic in the Southeast, and that beer blew my mind when I first had it.

    Our availability to damn tasty beers has never been so good. That's definitely impacted what we consider "average," but it's a tough balance. I've started to rate some damn good beers below 4.0 simply because, well, they're good, bordering on great, but nothing new or unique, and pretty much "standard" for what you can get on tap nowadays.
     
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    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, I see it as the more beers one has in a given style, the more similarities than differences there will be. Over time, ones reviews should be leaning more towards the average (3) than the extremes of 1 and 5. Even with my reputation as miserly with digits, my average score of 3.4 means that even I think most beers are above average, which is statistically impossible.
     
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  5. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Maybe so and maybe not...

    Control for smilers can't be bought.
     
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  6. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Hint #5: my target's BA username has only letters - whether they are all lowercase or a mix of lowercase and uppercase, who can say?
     
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  7. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Well, it's statistically impossible that most beers are above average, but not statistically impossible that most beers you have reviewed or rated are above average. Most of us gravitate toward beers we know we will enjoy (vice ticking for ticking sake), which skews the average higher above 3.0.

    Of course, the larger the sample size (reviewers like you, me, and Ian), the less true that holds, as we are bound to come across more average, or even below average, beers.
     
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  8. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Yea, I often feel like my average score on BA (3.91) is too high, but the truth is, I avoid beers or breweries that I know aren't going to be good or that I am not likely to enjoy. So the scores do tend to skew higher.
     
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  9. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I feel like there is something here - like, we should all include a beer we've rated really low in our box or something ....
     
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  10. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    Assuming states can be provinces, Hudson’s Bay is a marginal sea of the Arctic Ocean. I’ve rated more beers, but you have reviewed more. Perhaps reviews and ratings are interchangeable in this hint?

    Yes

    9

    yes.

    I am getting suspicious….
     
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    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    I like this idea. Would anyone like an extra chunky IIIPA?

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    So I can keep track, I have ruled out

    @superspak "shipping west"
    @Whyteboar "technically shipping west" but could this mean the post office is west than its coming east???
    @FBarber based on # of reviews
    @woemad based on "a lot of reviews"

    I think that's it though I may have overlooked some...
     
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    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    mmmmm, protein
     
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  14. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    STILL IN!
    Oh, I am lookin' forward to some sweet, sweet Illinois beer...
    [​IMG]
     
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    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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  16. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    This has me thinking...

    This I'm looking for patterns in the dates...what pattern or operation I don't know yet but why include them otherwise :thinking_face:
     
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  17. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Same here. My average score is clearly high, but I definitely tend to buy beer that I know is more likely to be good. I am also a fan of a lot of styles, which I think contributes to a higher average.
     
    #377 Beersnake, Mar 22, 2022
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  18. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    I worked SO DAMN HARD for this completely useless chart. I couldn't figure out a reasonable way to do it just with Sheets or Excel, so I ended up writing a program to calculate the data and spit it out into a format Excel could plot.
    [​IMG]
    It's everyone's 28 day "running average" of rDev. Each point on each curve is the average rDev of all of that person's reviews in the 28 day period preceding that date. If there are no reviews in the 28 day period, the line breaks and there is just empty space until the next review.

    Some big spikes make it even harder to see the total mess, so here's the same thing cropped down to a +/- 20% range.
    [​IMG]
    Still completely useless!

    Looking at an individual is more interesting, so here's mine all by itself:
    [​IMG]

    I'm not going to create and post 18 more of these. If you want yours in the thread, let me know; if you want yours separately, message me. :slight_smile:
     
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  19. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    Perhaps superfluous data for obfuscation?

    Perhaps it's critical to deciphering my diabolical code?

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Show me, on the doll, where Pannepot hurt you, Snot House.
     
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