New Beer Weekend #91

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  1. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    You would think ... the problem is I still can't figure out if I love it or hate it. :joy:
     
  2. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    Probably would depend on which way the wind is blowing on the given day for me...
     
  3. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    I think the Earth shifted. Rye beer wasn't category back then I believe. I certainly didn't approach that beer as one. I agree, just because there is Rye in it ...
     
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  4. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,682) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    Round #2
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    Thanks to Roy_Hobbs for this one.
    There's some bright citrus notes but a funky earthy note that is hard to nail down and is somewhat astringent.
    Flavor follows the nose with the mysterious earthy bitter note. Some grain pops as well.
    Mouthfeel is fine for style. Good carbonation.
    Overall, I'm thinking something is off with the can versus off with the beer. Hope to retry and edit this review.
    3.31/5 rDev -10.8%
    look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25
     
  5. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I bought a bunch of new beers today but I ended up drinking only this one; drank the entire four pack. And that's because it's a perfect light lager. Tastes like a drier Miller High Life. Gently grainy, faintly floral, touch of corn sweetness, and then incredibly crisp and clean. I was about to say it no lingering sweetness at all but there's a little bit, but absolutely not even close to cloying. Cerebral knocked it out of the park here and created a beer with almost endless sessionability.

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  6. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Alright, taxes are done and submitted and I need a beer ... today I was at a bottle shop I do not usually go to picking up some Pirate Weekend, and they had single cans of the 450 North slushy beers ... curiosity got the better of me, so I grabbed 2 cans to try. This one is Sour Worms a smoothie style sour ale with tart cherries, lime, peach & passionfruit.

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    So yea, this is one of those smoothie sour beers - its murky, chunky, opaque, sludgy, ugly ass beer. Thinnish, weak head. Aroma has notes of fruit - its tarty, sweet and somewhat artificial. I do get notes of peach, passionfruit, cherries and lime.

    Taste follows the nose with tart notes of fruit. Its sour. It reminds me of sour gummies. The fruit tastes like fruit flavored fruit ... i.e. not the actual fruit. Feel is gritty from the chunky debris in the beer. Moderate carbonation.

    I do not really know what to say about this beer. Its ... as advertised? Sour gummi worms? Yup. Smoothie beer? yup. Is it a beer I'd want to drink more than one of? Absolutely not.

    look: 1 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5 = 3.28 (rDev -23%)
     
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  7. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    An odd one, for sure
     
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  8. RJLarse

    RJLarse Pooh-Bah (2,375) Dec 30, 2005 Washington
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    Greetings all from the great northwest where we are just plain back to winter. Snow off and on most of the week. Cancelled a high school golf tournament on Thursday. It just sucks!

    Today we have Mass Ascension IPA from New Mexico according to the label. That makes sense with the big hit air balloon fest and all.
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35612/440277/

    A decent IPA. A bit on the light side but not bad.

    Happy Easter

    Until next time
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  9. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Ya can't go wrong - a sip of Sunshine does a body good!
     
  10. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Glad to hear your finances are coming together! Keep drinking good beer!
     
  11. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    I reviewed this one with dinner preps last night, but didn't post (we shifted to wine with pasta). So, here it is: Taps Fish House Irish Red Ale.

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    As straightforward a name as it is a beer. 5.3% ABV, and sent my way by @2beerdogs as part of NBS BIF #15.

    A lot of American takes on red ales are trying to be American India Irish Ales (AIIAs?). Even more balanced red ales (Irish and otherwise) are usually still more hoppy than more traditional takes in the style.

    This is not one of those American hoppy distortions. This is clean, balanced, and exceptionally drinkable. For some people, it's probably borderline boring; there's little yeast or hop expression, and low sweetness. Taste is toast, light caramel, herbs, and a touch of brown sugar.

    What an excellent take on the style.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2700/12194/?ba=Roguer#lists
    3.91 / +11.4%
     
  12. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Good day BAs! Back with another from the depths of my reefers:

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    Allow me to say up front that I don't like the base beer, Great Lakes Christmas Ale, although I do like Great Lakes beers in general - Edmond Fitzgerald is a stable as would be Rye of the Tiger if it were more readily available. But in general, their Christmas ale sucks, IMHO. However, the tag "Barrrel Aged" brought this one to my attention.


    Barrel Aged Christmas Ale from Great Lakes Brewing. 22 oz bottle purchased 20/02/22 from Franklin Beer, Franklin, PA, $16.00 (Including tax), $ 0.727/oz. On room temperature shelf at store. Stored at 40 degrees after purchase. Reviewed 17/04/22. Note that I use DD/MM/YY protocol.
    Undated bottle other than “2021” on the label. Split in two samples. Served at 70.3 degrees in a hand washed and dried Jester King snifter. Final temperature 67.3 degrees (Cooled to room temperature). Second sample Served at 47.4 degrees, final temperature 51.0 degrees before it went into the microwave.
    Appearance – 3.5.
    First pour – Medium Amber (SRM 12), clear.
    Body – Medium Amber (SRM 12), clear. When rear-lite, same.
    Head – Small (Maximum 1.8 cm, aggressive center pour), almond, fizzy and rapidly diminishing to leave a zero to 0.1 cm thin crown and a partial cap.
    Lacing – None.
    Aroma – 3 – Smells sweet with weak honey and generic “spices”. No hops, no malt, no yeast. No alcohol and particularly no bourbon.
    Flavor – 3.5 – At lower temperature (47.4 degrees) astringent. No alcohol burn until it hit the stomach, producing a mild warming which slowly builds. No hops, no yeast. Ethanol (8.2 % ABV, as marked on container) is otherwise hidden. No dimethylsulfide or diacetyl. At the higher temperature (70.3 degrees) the honey comes into its own, reducing the astringency and allowing the spices to meld – still no bourbon.
    Palate – 4.5 – Medium, creamy, soft caressing carbonation.
    Final impression and summation: 3.5 Where’s the bourbon? Well, that might be a hint on the backwash of the 70-degree sample but otherwise, seems like a marketing ploy. I split this bottle, running about one half in the microwave for 15 seconds on high and allowing the other half to gradually warm from reefer temperature. The microwave sample was MUCH tastier. The palate was still the best thing about this brew. Experiment’s over – the cooler sample entered the microwave as well – might as well make it drinkable.
    Rating 3.48, rDev -15.7%.
     
  13. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Good morning, Weekenders, and welcome to Sunday! I'm kicking off the morning with an ESB sent my way by @beergoot as part of NBS BIF #15.

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    I have extremely limited experience with the ESB style, this being only my fifth review (and only another four reviews of the English Bitter style). I also can't claim to have repeated (m)any in the style, either, so it's not like I just found one or two I love and keep crushing them.

    Part of this is my entrance to craft beer. Instead of being introduced to cask ales, I was introduced to German lagers, abbey ales, and - much, much later - IPAs. To top it off, ESBs aren't exactly huge sellers in the American craft beer market, so the availability of new bitters of any kind - as opposed to new IPAs or even pilsners - isn't great to begin with.

    Thus, my apologies if my rating for this one seems skewed. I am admittedly rating more to taste than to style. I am considering, of course, what I understand as the style, but I can only approximate if this is a "faithful" interpretation, and therefore must rate more to personal taste.

    As for style, this seems to me to be a very faithful take, albeit one on the higher end of the ABV scale.

    For me, flavor-wise, this is a home run. So hopefully it's pretty faithful to the style, because my ratings are going to come in very high on this one.

    Pasting from my review, as I covered it pretty thoroughly there:

    "Very aromatic and hop-forward aroma, with notes of citrus, tannins, tea, flowers, leather, honey, and toffee.

    Flavor follows, but with much more sweet malt than the nose implied. Caramel, brown sugar, pecan, and honey up front; strong tannins and a pungent bitterness in the middle; tea, lemon, and honey on the finish. Light toast throughout, including a very mild char on the aftertaste."

    Yeah, I like this one a lot, and it delivers pretty directly on what I expect from the style, perhaps a bit more flavorful and powerful, but it's not an IPA masquerading as a bitter (my wife, who as far as I know, has never had a bitter ale, said it reminds her of an IPA "without the lingering sting," and unlike an IPA, she can finish her small ~5 oz pour). I wonder how this one might translate to a traditional cask experience; it certainly doesn't have a cask-like mouthfeel. But in terms of flavor, this one is a home run.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2695/24280/?ba=Roguer#lists
    4.25 / +10.1%

    An interesting but unsurprising observation on rDev. Out of my last 10 reviews, I have been within +/- 1.2% of rDev on reviews of IPAs, stouts, and a Doppelbock with only one exception (out of eight such beers). But my last two reviews - an Irish red ale and an ESB - both clock in with double digit +rDev. I only have one other such review out of my last 50 (a wild ale), so I'm not traditionally an over-rater (compared to the average). To me, this speaks to the style bias we all know exists on BA: IPAs and stouts are rated very highly by the masses, but more understated styles are rated lower.

    I get it, too, as I think every person rates at least somewhat to personal tastes; it's likely impossible not to, try as one might to rate faithfully to style. And if personal tastes favor IPAs and stouts over Helles and bitters (bigger, bolder flavors over something more "boring"), then those beers will get higher ratings.

    Even clocking in with double digit +rDev, these beers aren't exactly high on my chart, with weighted scores of 3.91 and 4.25. So consider this a small sample size that checks with our assumptions and observations. :wink:

    Cheers!
     
  14. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    I find I get a much higher return if I have a few beers doing my taxes. Of course I did claim my beer fridge and dogs as dependents.
     
  15. Roy_Hobbs

    Roy_Hobbs Pooh-Bah (2,623) Jan 21, 2017 Connecticut
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    I think this is the first reference I've seen to microwaving beer. I had to do a double take. To your credit, it sounds like it was a good idea!
    I come in under rDev I'd guess about 2/3 of the time (I'm sure @snaotheus has calculated the actual number somewhere), but I suspect I'm over rDev on the 'classic' styles way more often than not. The more beer I try, the more I realize how much I enjoy a well crafted dark mild, ESB, pils etc.
     
  16. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    On the topic of unexpected microwaved food…am I the only one who microwaves ice cream. Not too much, just enough to soften it open a bit.
     
  17. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    My next new beer this Sunday was also sent my way by @beergoot , and is the second Local Relic offering from the box.

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    BBA Peppermint Chocolate Stout

    Wow, this one is a conundrum. My wife had two sips and gave up (so ... more for me!). I suspect your enjoyment of this brew will depend heavily on how much you like the mint.

    Peppermint is absolutely overpowering on the nose. The chocolate is almost lost, and the bourbon comes across as an almost neutral, woody booziness; it lacks any sweetness or sourness from the mash.

    If the peppermint is less dominant on the palate, it's only slightly. In addition, it lends a vegetal, earthy, almost dirty aspect. The bourbon, while boozy, is still somewhat indistinct. Bitter chocolate is present mostly on the back third.

    Drinks thin for a stout. There's a boozy bite, despite (barely) clocking in the single digits, but it's not unpleasant.

    What this beer really needs, IMO, is to get amped up to the 12-14% range. It simply lacks the body and sweetness to support the additives and barrel aging. There's not enough stout in this imperial stout.

    That said, I am enjoying it (unlike my partner), even if I'm not floored by it. The only other review is David's, and he found the bright peppermint refreshing and unique. I have to agree, even if I find its influence too potent for my preference, and lacking in support from the malt base (while I'm at it, the yeast expression is nowhere to be found, either).

    Tough beer to rate. Interesting? Definitely! Unique? Yes! Tasty? Yeah ... it's tasty enough. Great? I don't think so, but YMMV.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/43168/597361/?ba=Roguer#lists
    3.54 / -5.6% (two total ratings/reviews)

    Thanks David!
     
  18. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    You are not sir. I don't eat ice cream anymore, as I generally don't eat desserts at all. But when I was younger, I loved the runny stage of ice cream, and indeed would microwave it for just a moment.

    Microwaving a beer, as @Ozzylizard did today, is far stranger - and, I think, a brilliant way to amplify an otherwise underwhelming beer.
     
  19. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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  20. Roy_Hobbs

    Roy_Hobbs Pooh-Bah (2,623) Jan 21, 2017 Connecticut
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    I'm sure I'm not the only one who does this, but I have a terrible habit of being SUPER excited to acquire a beer, then I hoard it for just the right occasion.....which never comes. Rather than just drinking the stupid stuff fresh, it sits and sits and sits until suddenly I realize "oh crap, this beer I was so excited to get may not be good anymore".

    Today's first beer is a perfect example of this. My first couple trips up to Hill Farmstead were back in 2017 and the prized hauls from those first couple trips were two bottles of Genealogy of Morals and two bottles of b7 of Flora. Until about 30 minutes ago, all four of those bottles sat safely in my cellar, right where they've been for the last 5 years.

    Long intro aside, I've finally opened a bottle of Genealogy of Morals, a bourbon barrel aged imperial stout with coffee.
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    4.38/5 rDev -2.9%
    look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

    Bottled December, 2016

    Color on the pour is an interesting reddish brown. Once in the glass it settles into a deep, deep brown with just the faintest of red. Almost no head, but a mocha colored ring persists. Excellent legs.

    Aroma is rich and boozy. The bourbon / barrel are both there, but so are notes of chocolate, molasses, figs and more. . Very nice smelling beer.

    As for taste, unsurprisingly the coffee has faded and I honestly can't even detect it. That said, I'm not sure it matters all that much, as what's still there is great. For my first few sips I was getting lots of barrel / bourbon, but as my palate has adjusted the depth of the beer became more noticeable. Nothing is in your face. The chocolate, roast, barrel etc. are all subtle enough that each sip leaves a slightly different impression.

    Nice light alcohol warmth and amazingly full, chewy mouthfeel. Maybe I've given a 5 on feel before, but if so, I don't know when. For my tastes, this has a perfect feel.

    Overall, while I wish I'd tried one of these fresh, it's clear that this is a very well-crafted beer that has held up well over time, even without the coffee element.
     
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