IPA Overload

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  1. Porter-stoutguy

    Porter-stoutguy Initiate (109) Jun 15, 2021 Kentucky

    I run a craft beer meetup group in the greater Phoenix, Arizona area called The Phoenix Craft Beer Community. We frequent Arizona breweries and taphouse on a weekly basis to experience all the great brews, both on a local basis and from all around the USA and abroad. I get it that IPA's are popular with many folks and the Hazy IPA's have exploded on the scene in recent years, but my experience with my meetup group is that we are IPA'd out. Many breweries will offer around 20 tap handles with about 12 to 14 being versions of pale ales and IPA's and maybe 3 to 5 being some form of a sour. Recently one local taphouse had about 90% of their tap handles as some version of IPA's and sours. Many in my group like ambers, browns, porters and lagers, with stouts trending in the cooler weather, but we don't usually get many of the ambers or browns even being offered.

    Are many others feeling the same burnout on the IPA's as we are, and is it not time to break away and move into less hoppiness and more into the malty darker offerings, or at least a fair balance between them all. It's not so much of the IPA varieties offered as many like them, but more about the out of balance percentage weighed too heavily on the heavy hoppy IPA's being offered at any one time at the taphouses and breweries.
     
  2. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    You’ve posted in the right place.
    You’ll get a lot of love and affirmation from these dudes on this topic.
     
  3. Leighton_

    Leighton_ Initiate (194) Jan 31, 2021 Minnesota
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    It's what the people want, having talked firsthand with many brewers they'd love to be brewing malt-forward styles across the board but tragically they just don't sell. You really have to dig deep for european-style branded breweries to find a taproom that sticks to more intensive variety.

    On the flip-side as someone who loves hazies and fruity bullshit it's really enjoyable to go to a brewery and be able to try a half dozen different beers of the same style and compare the nuances. The diversity across the style is greater than ever and I find it very enjoyable to try beers across the entire spectrum of a sub-style, reminds me of a wine tasting for better or worse.
     
  4. Porter-stoutguy

    Porter-stoutguy Initiate (109) Jun 15, 2021 Kentucky

    Thanks Big Ron. It's not that I don't like IPA's either; it's just about how the brewers are stuck in a rut and churning out so many different types for fruity and hazy types. I know many love them, but not everyone.
     
  5. Porter-stoutguy

    Porter-stoutguy Initiate (109) Jun 15, 2021 Kentucky

    Appreciate your input Leighton and you are correct that a lot of folks just dig the style, but, my sense is we are nearing a tipping point where we want more types of malt forward types too. I know brewers have to give the consumer what they will buy. I only hope we start seeing some moves to diversify.
     
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  6. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    Big Ron?
     
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    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I, being of the old and cranky sector of humanity, continue to believe that the Murkbombs shouldn't even be considered to be IPAs. They are other.

    And yes, since the Brewers who have insisted upon foisting these these upon as equal of the established styles, seem to be both greedy and lazy, yes, there are too many IPAs on tap/on shelves these days.
     
  8. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    Welcome to the modern beer scene
     
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    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    IPAs are trash but so is the majority of the population. So it makes sense
     
  10. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    One of the most ridiculous statements Ive heard lately. Fkn shit. Everybody drinks what they like. I wasnt going to comment on this thread because I knew there would be assanine comments....and there it is.
     
  11. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    Lazy and Greedy?? Wow. Ive been a Chef at a brewery and I know many on the beer scene in this area. I dont know one fkn brewer that is lazy and most are struggling to make it do to competition. Ive been in the restaurant business for almost 40 years. Most of what you see ( if not almost) is ideas that have been succesful all over with a different take. Originality is hard to come by. And basically every recipe has evolved from another recipe....just like beer. Doesnt make them lazy. But it may help them to be successful if they take the idea and put a twist on it. May be what alot of brewers are doing with IPAs...and its just plain blah alot- I get it. But sometimes it works. You never know unless you try.
     
  12. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Now you have twice :wink:
     
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    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Have you heard of the Happy Hour at The Winchester group out of Arizona?
     
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  14. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    And now three times. Thank You.:stuck_out_tongue:
     
  15. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    Glad i could be of service :sunglasses:
     
  16. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    Still don’t get it tbh
     
  17. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Perhaps a bit of a mis-speak on my part. Not thst the physical brewers are lazy at their jobs, but more that whoever decides that whatever new thing the brewers come up with is an "IPA". IPA, at this point in modern American beer culture, is a term that sells.

    If either of us ordered a Filet Mignon at a restaurant, and we got served a pork tenderloin, we'd be, at a minimum, confused. We ask for an explanation, and they say "it's still a tenderloin, what does the animal matter?". Would we accept that?

    Why are we accepting hoppy lagers as "Cold IPA"? Why are we accepting these frooty, murky beers as IPAs, when the definition is well established? Because the brewers (again, not necessarily the folks on the brewdeck) have decided to co-opt the term for sales and marketing reasons.

    Consumers have proven themselves endlessly gullible.
     
  18. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    The dood you replied to here has posted repeatedly that he posts shit just for the reactions, and wonders why folks take seriously. So, I don't.
     
  19. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    I hear you. Even if I don't drink from tap for example because l'm into NA, I would hate to see my less hop forward selection to diminish. Maybe it's time for the magical abbreviation IPA not to mean this is the only beer.

    I'm reading the Beer Bible right now, and counting on to find representatives of all the styles in there :sunglasses:
     
  20. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    Heard. Thanks appreciate that.
     
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