Growing Hops 2022

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  1. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    First bull shoots have made an appearance last week. We're not done with freezing tamps yet. Should they be cut back now and mulched, or wait until after the last known frost?

    Last spring, on a whim, I dug up a rhizome from my Goldings and set it in the ground away from the rest of the yard. It grew but didn't flower, and it's the first one to send up shoots this year.
     
  2. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    You could go either way. If you cut them back now you will want to do it again later in the month. Or you could just wait until then. I don't let the bines grow for real until first week in May.
     
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  3. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I'll probably cut them back tomorrow, and mulch. The thinking there is that the nutrients/energy the severed bull shoots would have used will be diverted to growth that will eventually become bines on the lines.

    The average last frost near me is May 10 @ 3100' and I'm at 3900'. That 800' can be significant in low temps (valley vs. mountain top), so we'll see how things look in early May.
     
  4. memory

    memory Zealot (700) Oct 2, 2005 Pennsylvania

    My past experiences on cut back. If I let them grow then cut all back timed to reach the ideal grow date for light in June, sometimes it seems I stunt the growth. Can differ by variety, but if I don't cut them all and leave strong leaders alone, I get better results.
    Wonder if that is what others experience.
     
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  5. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    I’m trying my hand at some hops this year. I went with 3 Cascade rhyzomes. I’m just gonna let them go this first year and not cut back or anything. From what I’ve read a lot of foliage the first year is good to get the roots healthy. Not sure if it’s true or not but seems the easy route to take lol. I got a good deal on a squash trellis. I figured If it will hold squash it will hold hops. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Have some starting to pop out.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And late in the summer/early fall you will be able to sit under your trellis and think hoppy thoughts!

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    Awesome how old are your bines and how many are in that picture? Do you cut your shoots back to one strong one?
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It is an 'old' plant. My guess is about 8 years old. And it was originally grown for ornamental reasons so there was no cut back so there are many bines (maybe 20ish).
    As mentioned above, no cut back. It is my understanding that at hop farms they only want a few (three?) bines growing up their trellis (twine I suppose).

    Will you get a 'better' harvest if you cut back your bines? I suppose a commercial hop farmer would say yes.

    FWIW, every year I get about 15 - 20 ounces of hop cones (measured wet) and I use them to homebrew a wet hopped beer in September. I call this beer a Harvest Ale.

    Cheers!
     
  9. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    I cut mine back to the ground on Tuesday and covered them with mulch since some inches of snow are in the forecast for this weekend. I'll let them grow until the strongest ones are evident, then cut down all but three per line. Also dug up one Golding rhizome and relocated where it should get more sun....I think that's been one of my issues.
    With the cutback shoots and the pale part of the transplanted rhizome, I cleaned and rinsed them thoroughly; they're now being pickled in the fridge.

    I've read it's a good idea to remove the leaves from about the first 3' - 4' after the bines are climbing pretty good. It lets air circulate a little better and can assist in preventing mildew. (Although in Jack's picture that doesn't look to be a problem)

    Nice raised beds.....where did you get the materials? I have several raised beds. We didn't want pressure-treated lumber so I got some 2"x10"x12' cedar planks from Lowe's (no longer available). They've lasted 10+ years and I've been replacing them as they fail with non-PT boards. Their service life is about 5 years or so.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, I have never had issues with mildew with this plant.

    I do have to set up Japanese Beetle traps during their season since they like to munch on the leaves.

    Cheers!
     
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  11. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    Rip I’m not sure where my wife got them. I just put them together. We wanted to grow stuff to make fresh salsa but I took over some of the footage to try hops. I got the trellis from Gardeners.com Squash Titan it’s called.
     
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  12. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Mine aren’t up , but I cut them down in a week or 2, then pick some nice secondary shoots get them up 8 -10 feet, trim leaves up to 4 feet slowly but before mildew spores start climbing upwards.
     
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  13. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    Lines are up and shoots have been cut back to 2 - 3 production bines per line. This weekend the watering system will be tested for leaks, and I'll re-research recommendations for nutritional and preventative applications.
     
  14. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Sadly, I pulled all my hops out this year. Just could not stop them from getting ravaged by Japanese beetles every year. Tried everything, natural control, chemical control, grub control, beetle traps. Just got to the point that it wasn't worth my trouble.
     
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  15. memory

    memory Zealot (700) Oct 2, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I get Japanese beetles every year. They eat parts of the leaves, but doesn't seem to hurt cone growth.
     
  16. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    For fertilizer: depending on number of plants, there are a few things out there that are pretty good all rounders. Dr. Earth has a couple with good numbers; all purpose (4-4-4), Vegie (4-6-3), fruit tree (5-5-2) or the citrus(6-3-3). These are good for hops the nitrogen (first number) is the most important, but the others help plant health. Supplement with some bloodmeal (typically 12-0-0 or so) and you should be good. Just don't over do the fertilizer or you can burn your plants with too much nitrogen.

    For pests: one of the best things you can use is Neem oil. It is however not the best for everything you might want in your yard. Application time, is key if you have veggies and other flowers near by that are for pollinators. Neem is the ultimate all rounder. Dr. Earth again, has things that I am going to try for the first time this year as well. Same as neem, I need to spray really early as I have honey bees as well for the first time this year... Hopefully it is not too much of an issue. For mold/fungal issue, I am a fan of copper based products and have been using Bonide copper fungicide. This year I will not as it is a big no no with honey bees...Serenade will be my fall back if the Dr. Earth stuff flops as it is bee safe or so they say. I do use Japanese beetle traps, a lot of them, and I have apparently taught the racoons and skunks that once they are full they can get an easy meal, as i usually only have to replace the bag over toss them.

    I did a lot of weeding out on mine hops last week, and all of them really shot up this last week. My Fuggle seems to have had a bad winter, as I only see two of nine hills with shoot. Only looks like a couple hills of Columbus didn't make it otherwise. Going to be a busy year I think. Put up more wires and got the W clips for the lines to try this year as well.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I also have issues with Japanese beetles every year but a couple of traps located >50 feet away from the hop plant works for me.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    I was usually able to get some hops, but not optimal growth. The plants just got so stressed.
     
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  19. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    I have MiracleGro organic 11-3-8 on hand from last year (nowhere near past its shelf life), so I'll use that unless there's a good reason not to.

    Also have Neem oil concentrate from a couple years ago and it might be too old. I’ll use it anyway and will replace if it doesn’t seem to be effective.
    The main large pollinators I see around here are wasps and carpenter bees, not many honey, sweat or ground bees at all. Still, it’s good to know Neem can be detrimental to them, and using it at dawn or dusk is preferred.
    Chipmunks burrowing in the plot is another story.....they're persistent little buggers.

    I remember Bonide from previous posts and thought I bought some, but it’s not in the ware-room so I guess not.

    Based on a suggestion last year by @Merlyn I picked up a Bayer product with Imidacloprid. I’ll make a soil application now and a foliar application later, as needed. It’s supposedly effective for insects and downy mildew.

    DISCLAIMER: I weighed the recommendation by @Merlyn and ultimately took it upon myself to purchase and use Imidacloprid. Any adverse effects are my responsibility and should not reflect on advice from others.
     
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  20. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    ripper, your neem and mirical grow should be fine. I keep these products inside where they won’t get wet or freeze. Kept mirical grow for up to 4 years, but I do buy it in 25 lb bags for flowers and seal it tight after the greenhouse is closed.
     
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