I love lists. The new white whale list I thought was interesting and fun to look through. As someone relatively new to the craft beer scene some/most of these beers are outside of my reach. Although, in an effort to measure my own dick I did find I have seven of these beers in my cellar currently. I would like to see someone and I suppose I could spearhead it, but not sure I have the time to commit to it, create a rotating tan whale list of sorts. Maybe the top 100 whaleish beers of the last say 2 years. Beers that are within reach somewhat. I am thinking beers like Blacknote, king Henry, rare, BA DL, CBS, etc. I could see some overlap in the lists, maybe Ann would top the list since it would fall with the 2 year rule. So who wants to put in a bunch of time and effort and create the rotating tan whale list. On a side note Happy holidays to everyone. It has been fun getting to know some of you both through solely communicating via BA and others who I have had a please to meet in person. May 2013 be better than 2012. Joe
I suppose a list like this could open up a can of "I want to win the trade because I have a tan whale can of worms" but that is going to continue to happen whether there is a list or not. I just think a rotating list of the top 100 sought after beers of the last two maybe even three years could be cool. Joe
It would be awesome if someone could compile all the beers listed in ISOs, and ranking them. Maybe weight them according to how recently they were ISOd. This wouldn't really be the same as a whale list though. Would be more like a popularity list.
Eh - this one would be really bad. The white whale list has purposes of historical accounting and almost zero practical impact on the trading world. This kind of list would essentially start playing Beckett's price guide for the beer trading scene. There is already enough of a dichotomy in the trading world with today's typical noobish ISO/FT poster and vets who are sick of the whole damn rat race it has turned into. Why drive another stake into the heart of trading? Also, even if this list were a decent idea, it would ebb and flow so much with the hot release of the week that you'd never even get an accurate assessment. Plus the variability of what one person will trade for the same thing as somebody else...
Fair points. I didn't mean for it to be a price guide by any means, but I could see that happening. Anyone who I have traded with I think would agree I have never been one to try and win a trade. I just thought it would be an interesting exercise.
It would be cool to see, but I see everyone's point about it making trading harder. I guess since I primarily stick to BIFs and trading with a few established partners I'd be less concerned with the list existing.
No need in inflating perceived value of something so one BA can fleece another BA. We need to stop calling everything a wale! "Tan" whales aren't wales!
Of course it does that is why it has beers like Ann and Iced Eclipse and T25. Historical references indeed. I didn't mean to create a price guide, and my choice of terminology wasn't exactly what I meant to convey, but I still stand by the fact I think it would've an interesting list to see. I honestly don't think like most of you that a lot of the new ISO posts are BA's trying to fleece one another. I think they are honest mistakes because most noobs don't really know enough to put a value on the beer based on availability, demand, release dates, etc. Also,mwhen you talk about people fleecing one another you are in fact guilty of valuing your beers over other beers. the fact of the matter is I have regular trading partners that I think I am very generous with and they are to me as well. When one engages in trading a value is placed on the beer
Whether someone agrees with the value is another story and what trading is about. If the deal gets done then someone agreed.
Changes every week or 2 with every anticipated or actual release, esp when it is a release that people can horde/mule a large number of bottles because of location (HF, BCBS and variants, DLs, Beats etc.)
