What Constitutes A "Winter" Lager?

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  1. Hotajax

    Hotajax Aspirant (201) Oct 4, 2020 Pennsylvania
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    What additions to brew come to mind? I don't know, I generally don't buy them, but I'm sure there are some good ones out there. Is is the addition of fruit and / or spices? Special yeasts not readily available? I'm willing to bet most breweries have their own ideas about winter lagers.
     
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  2. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    Winter Lager is a Lager that gets served in a 16 oz manly PINT pour. Instead of those tiny 8 oz pours.
     
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  3. Hotajax

    Hotajax Aspirant (201) Oct 4, 2020 Pennsylvania
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    8 oz pour = don't bother leaving home.
     
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  4. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I think you could look at the styles pages here and draw a parallel. Look at American IPA versus IPL - there are a lot of similarities in the characteristics, just the IPL contains more "lager" character. You could then look at the characteristics for a Winter Warmer (as defined) and draw the comparison for what could be a winter lager which is not defined.
     
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  5. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    A "winter lager" is a lager released for the winter season.

    It MIGHT be stronger or darker than Budweiser... or not... but it is definitely not released for the summer season.
     
  6. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    I drove over an hour one way to get a 4-ounce pour of 2022 KBBS at Toppling Goliath. I'll do it again when the 2023 is released. YMMV.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    To the best of my recollection the only beer I ever had which was labeled as “Winter Lager” was the version from Sam Adams. So far this year I have only had one draft glass (23 ounce glass).

    From the Sam Adams website:

    “Winter Lager's rich malt notes with a carol of cinnamon, ginger, and orange peel will send you straight to the holiday mindset. Full-bodied festive flavor and smooth as a sleigh ride, let Sam be your holiday party sidekick this season.”

    And: “ABV: 5.6%”

    It would seem that both the combination of a more robust ABV (i.e., > 5%) and the addition of spices/flavorings yields a “Winter Lager” perhaps.

    Cheers!
     
  8. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    some people live for hyped "world class" beer release and some dont.

    some traveled in a plane from California that won the bottle lottery and some didn't.

    this is about Lagers not 4oz pours of KBBS though
     
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  9. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/741/3542/
    I think Jack has the jist of it.

    A slightly-stronger lager (Bock strength, roughly) maybe brewed with specialty or dark malts. In the US, it may also be “flavored” — which is to say, brewed with spices (which is generally more commonly seen in the ales of the “winter warmer” rubric).

    In the past, when I learned of a brand billed or advertised as a “winter lager”, I would often come to find in to be Bock-like, and in some cases listed as a Bock by various professional critics, writers, or rating/review websites or publications.

    In this same vein, I also think of Festbiers, especially in (but not limited to) Bavaria, and other areas of Europe with rich lager brewing traditions. Sure, they are not always Bock in color or characte, but they often have a grain bill which is a bit uncommon compared to their year-round offerings.

    In the Midwest (and Wisconsin, to be precise) both Sprecher and Capital used to brew lager beer brands billed as “winter” offerings, and they were typically darker, with an ABV somewhere between Maerzen and Bock.

    Across town, Lakefront brewed (and maybe still does?) a winter offering called “Holiday Spice”, being of Doppelbock strength and also quite heavily spiced.
     
  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Ah, that age old question...
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    * Well, since Repeal, anyway. (Though Storz says Pittsburgh 1903).
     
  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Because the marketing department said so.
     
  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    There are 116 beers in the BA database that use 'winter lager' in the beer's name, and the zctual assigned lager sub-style name varies considerably. I doubt that there is any common ingredient in these beers to be able to 'define' a winter lager (other than water, malt, hops and yeast).
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/search/?start=0&q=winter+lager&type=beer
     
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  13. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    These were great to read. Coincidentally, I do like to pair winter beers with he-man foods. And that Storz ad copy just calling out all their deceitful competitors :laughing: They must have had quite the R&D budget as well - 'every scientific test' was at their disposal and used.

    OP, just ask for a beer with 'extra tang and tingle'. Hopefully, you'll get handed a winter beer but no promises. :wink:
     
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