Oldies But Goodies - a Classics Appreciation Thread (2023)

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    One of the hops featured in that beer is Galaxy and there has been quite a bit of 'variability' in the quality of Galaxy hops over the past few years. I have personally stopped buying Galaxy hops for my homebrewing since it was like playing Russian Roulette, you just can't predict what you are going to get.

    Galaxy hops when they are 'on' are great hops. :beers:

    Cheers!
     
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  2. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Maybe because it's so easy to find, I know I tend to take it for granted. However, every now and again I'll see it on tap or at the beer store, and suddenly recall how much I like it. I'll instantly grab a bottle or order a glass when that happens.

    I've enjoyed the aged bottle version and the eisbock version as well, but in the end I think I enjoy the original the best.
     
  3. jkrich

    jkrich Pooh-Bah (1,878) Nov 1, 2001 Florida
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    I would consider Great Lakes Brewing Company's Dortmunder Gold a classic.
     
  4. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Making it my goal for now to always have a six pack of an oldie but goodie and/or classic...this is both in my opinion. My first smaller craft beer loves were Long Trail Ale and Saranac Adirondack Lager, well Adirondack Lager doesn't make it to NJ but Long Trail still does...grabbed a six pack for the first time in 4-5 years I'd guess; BTW we better buy these beers or we're to blame for the recipe changes and discontinuations...

    My brother gave me a long trail themed Christmas gift long long ago and the one remaining part of that gift is the bottle opener used to open this beer :beers:

    Long Trail Ale (Altbier 5%)

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    Ever so slightly malty sweet, pleasant bit of toastiness, just enough hops and nice medium bitterness on the finish; super smooth drinker that finishes mostly dry.

    It is wrong that I haven’t bought this beer in so long…if you used to love this beer and haven’t had it in a while go grab a six pack, I hope it brings you as much joy as its giving me as I type this :beers:

    To those who mentioned Long Trail...

    @RobHB @dennisthreeninefiveone @DarkDragon999 @mvogt

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    Take a Hike!

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  5. NickSMpls

    NickSMpls Grand Pooh-Bah (3,176) Nov 11, 2012 Washington
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    If you’re from the upper Midwest, Schnell’s Deer Brand lager would bring back memories. At least 50 years for me and I believe it was available post WW2.
     
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  6. NickSMpls

    NickSMpls Grand Pooh-Bah (3,176) Nov 11, 2012 Washington
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    Oops. In my post above, the brewer came out wrong —. It’s SCHELLS. Damn iPhone autocorrect.
    Their web site says Deer Brand was a pre-prohibition offering which would be dated back 100 years..a good candidate for the “most classic” ?

    Maybe the
     
  7. thegodfather2701

    thegodfather2701 Savant (1,125) Nov 3, 2005 North Carolina

    This, along with Rogue Deadguy Ale, was the beer that got me into craft beer. It was early 2005 and I just turned 21. Fantastic beer and I’m buying a sixer for this weekend. Thanks for this thread!


     
  8. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Love it…Assuming all goes as planned, we’ll see you in a few days :beers:
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Deer Brand as brewed 100 years ago is likely very different from today's version. I suppose this is "classic' marketing?

    Cheers!
     
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  10. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    I recall confusing Long Trail with another brewery over the years (wish I could recall which, but that's the nature of being confused), so I had to check out my reviews of Long Trail beers, and I never rated this one. I do have a straight 3.75 rating for Limpo IPA (there have been short periods where we could rate the beers with a singular value, and I still have quite a few I haven't re-rated).

    The odd thing, given this thread has a perhaps not-so-vague nostalgic vibe to it, I do specifically recall having and rating their SMaSH project beer, unsurprisingly using Citra hops.
     
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  11. NickSMpls

    NickSMpls Grand Pooh-Bah (3,176) Nov 11, 2012 Washington
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    Well, we first bought Schell's Deer Brand beer in 1976 when we moved to Minnesota for my first job out of college. IIRC, it was $4.99 for a case of 12 oz returnables. We drank a lot of it.

    The locals said it had been around since anyone could remember.

    The website reads that its been in production since the 19th century. Would love to have a time machine to go back to 1922 or even 1872 and grab a bottle.
     
  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    F X Matt currently has a mixed 12 pack on the shelves in NJ (in Shore Point's central Jersey region, at least) called "Throwback Series" 3 each of Adirondack Lager, Golden Pilsener, Black & Tan and American I.P.A. Gotta say the Adirondack Lager was pretty disappointing, since I, too, first had it when it was initially released in 1985 or so and branded Saranac 1888 All-Malt Lager ("Two-row Klages malt, American Cascade and german Hallertauer hops, krausened and lagered"). Initially even came in green glass since it was aimed at the Imported beer market.

    Big mistake - that'd be during Prohibition.:grimacing: Not sure how time machine refunding works, you might have to hang around until December 1933 and full Repeal. (PS - while, sure, "everybody else is doing it" get your money out of Wall Street and the banks after 1928).

    Schell's Deer Brand currently (2010 info, anyway) is hopped with Cascades (which only became commercially available in the 1970s) and, IIRC, they also changed the strain of yeast at some point - 1960s/1970s? - so it's not the same recipe (like just about any beer older than yesterday).
     
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  13. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I wish you didn't tell me this cause now I will go looking for more beer that I don't need to buy, but happily will :grin:...I'm hopeful since I did see the winter variety pack locally, I will go searching this weekend. I did revisit Adirondack Lager last year, or year before, at some point, my sister went up to Lake Placid and I asked for a six pack if she came across it. It instantly transported me back, and I enjoyed the whole six pack.

    Oh and I looked up that mixed pack, even has the throwback labels, really cool idea on their part, and perfect for the thread. Now time to check the beer finder...
     
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  14. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    @jonphisher - Just wanted to let you know that I picked up a single of Red Seal Ale because of your first post in this thread. I'd looked at it numerous times but had always been after a stout or IPA or ESB or whatever was tickling my fancy that month. So while it is a classic to most, it will actually be a new beer to me. And it's your fault. :-)
     
  15. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Well I still have 7 new to me beers that are in the fridge from you, and that is 100% your fault :wink::beers:

    Looking forward to reading your thoughts either here or over in NBW...it is a delicious beer.
     
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  16. NickSMpls

    NickSMpls Grand Pooh-Bah (3,176) Nov 11, 2012 Washington
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    Thanks, very interesting information. When we visit Minnesota now, we go for other craft beer from Surly, Steel Toe, Summit and others. If we want Schells, we go to Firebrick, Oktoberfest, Snowstorm depending on the season.

    Cheers!
     
  17. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    Last night I enjoyed a Canadian classic from Wellington Brewery of Guelph, Ontario, who bill themselves as Canada’s oldest independent craft brewery (founded in 1985). This is their Special Pale Ale, English pale ale that they have had on the market for more than 30 years. This is a revisit for me, and I haven’t had one in at least ten years.

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    Pours a bright copper with ample head that sticks around and leaves light lacing as the beer is enjoyed.

    The nose is a caramel, light floral and citrus hops. Solid.

    The taste follows. Caramel on crackers with a light citrus note that ends in a pleasant, mildly bitter finish.

    Medium body, moderate carbonation. Highly drinkable.

    A solid if unspectacular EPA that I should revisit more often.

    Cheers!
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As best you can recall, did it taste the same?

    Cheers!
     
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  19. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    I think so, but it was so long ago. It certainly reminded me of the pale ales you’d get around here circa 1995-2000 or so.

    I plan to grab cans of their Arkell’s Best Bitter and Russian Imperial Stout soon. Those have both been available for over 20, 25 years and I have had more recently so should be able to make a comment on that point.

    Cheers.
     
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  20. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    Deschutes Brewery -- Obsidian Stout
    American stout
    ABV: 6.4%; pouring temperature: 48.0 ℉; bottling info: PKGD 12/21/22
    Source: local single purchase (Coaltrain Fine Wine, Craft Beer & Spirits)
    Auxiliary vices: Evan Williams -- Black Label; Padron -- maduro lonsdale (remnant from a few days ago)

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    ...I probably haven't had this one since my January 16th, 2013 review...it's been too long...even in 2013 it had been a while (apparently) since I last had it...

    4.28/5 rDev +2.1%
    look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

    Revisited February 10th, 2023

    Dark mahogany body, nearly black in the glass; incredibly huge, light tan head, thick and spongy. Well-balanced aroma of chocolate, cocoa, roasted grains. Straight-ahead stout taste; dark and milk chocolate with a bit of coffee; sublime sweetness counterpointed with a moderately intense bitterness from grain char and hops. Heavy body; silky; semi-dry tones with the alcohol and grain char.

    Okay, I toned down my ratings from over 10 years ago. This is still a stellar beer, but lots of other beers are a bit richer and fuller in body, but mostly due to adjuncts (and even barrel aging). Still, this is a classic beer. It's been around for a while, 35-years if it was an original offering when the brewery opened in 1988.

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    Original January 16th, 2013 ratings and scores: 4.75 4.5 4.5 4.25 4.5; overall score: 4.49; rDev: +7.2%

    Ah, it's good coming back to an old friend!

    Opaque, black body and rich, thick, sticky tan head please the eyes. Dark, charred grain smell with a coffee-like hint; bitter chocolate. Bitter, chocolaty flavor with some astringency and dryness present. Medium-heavy body, smooth, creamy, clean, dry.

    Yes, this stout has always been one of my favorites from years ago. It's been a while since I've sampled any (there are just too, too many different beer styles and breweries available to me in Colorado Springs - oh, the shame, the shame...), but this latest version still sits well with me. It's well made, nicely balanced, with a quiet yet deep complexity that brings delight with each sip.
     
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