Ratings/Ticks within posts

Talk Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by unlikelyspiderperson, Mar 15, 2023.

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  1. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    This is likely not feasible, but what if there was a way to add ratings into forum posts.

    Maybe a person's score for a given beer could be an average of all of their ratings and they could add ratings right in forum posts.

    I suspect this is too close to untappd's model of user interface and probably a lot more work than I think. But hey, seems like @Todd has been busy and is finishing up one project so maybe he wants another one :grin:
     
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  2. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    This idea is nowhere near Untappd's model, which was inspired by BeerAdvocate. The forum is also third-party software, so any desired features outside of the core requires custom coding or an addons. But I don't see us ever using the forum to post ratings/reviews. It would be a nightmare.

    But creating a link to your review and having the data embed/be displayed within a forum post (or on social media) could be an interesting project. Definitely not a priority though.
     
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  3. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Yes, please!
     
  4. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I'm not understanding what you're asking for. One could always just link to their review in a post. And wouldn't a users average score being used for a given beer only lead to every beer having the same score? What am I missing?
     
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  5. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I'm was thinking allowing multiple numeric scores from one user for the same beer with their "score" for the beer being the average of all of the individual ratings they've given it.

    And I was thinking that forum posts could have the capacity to input a numerical rating within a post. But it sounds like it's not a workable option anyway. It was just a random thought that occurred to me when I was looking at the March madness thing that is going on
     
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  6. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Why would one person have different scores to start with? Why would anybody trust the opinion of someone who gives the same beer different scores? I'm just not grasping your plan here.

    Admittedly, I'm a dense SOB, and I'm asking for clarification in a sincere way. I'm just not understanding.
     
  7. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Grand Pooh-Bah (3,740) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I haven’t had a drop of alcohol tonight but I can’t understand most of the posts on this thread.
     
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  8. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    You have the exact same opinion of a beer every time you have it? That's not my experience at all. My favorites are the ones that deliver the best experience reliably, but even those will wax and wane with the seasons and over the course of years.
     
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  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Again, I'm not understanding what your getting at, which is why I'm asking. But, this quote from your OP:

    "Maybe a person's score for a given beer could be an average of all of their ratings and they could add ratings right in forum posts."

    is why I'm confused. You seemingly suggest that ones average score for all beers could be posted in forum posts. Is this on a thread about a given beer? Or, do you think our average ratings (in my case for more than 4000 beers, across a majority of the styles) should just be automatically posted on every post we make?

    It seems like you are suggesting that my "score for a given beer" should be the same as my average for all beers, regardless of style.

    I'm not getting why you think our our average scores should be added to our forum posts. I admit that I'm dense. I'm sure there's a simple answer that I'm missing. But, as I said upthread, I am just not understanding what you're getting after here.
     
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  10. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I think he is proposing to allow multiple reviews/ratings of the same beer and that a user’s score for that beer would be the average of all of their reviews/ratings (in the same vein as when you could review a beer multiples for different formats - bottle/can/draft/nitro).
     
  11. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    I think the idea here is:

    Have a Coors Light on Monday and rate it at a 2.0. Have another on Wednesday and rate it 3.0. Your rating for Coors Light would be a 2.5.

    Currently, if you rate the beer a second time, your rating would show as a 3.0.

    ?
     
  12. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    My thoughts with how people use it may be somewhere else. I'd expect beers that commonly get multiple ratings from people would be a beer that is very inconsistent (ie. some terrible hazy IPAs to avoid) or thrives on its inconsistency (ie. wild ales/lambic). I can probably get this from reading a handful of reviews but it could be nice to get that as some point of data. And then also maybe see what the overall range is of the difference?
     
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  13. milkshakebeersucks

    milkshakebeersucks Pooh-Bah (2,392) Feb 10, 2020 Maryland
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    I agree that you can get a different reaction for the same beer at different times (heck, even from the same 6pk). But wouldn't be easy to just edit your original review? Then you could include the old and new notes and account for the differences.
     
  14. seakayak

    seakayak Pooh-Bah (1,823) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I don't necessarily need this feature, but I can see how I'd use it. Like a Fitbit for beer!

    My regular recently has been All Day IPA. Most days it hits around my rating of 3.75. But some days it's round and soft and full and smooth - just magnificent for a cheap available beer (4.00+). But other days it tastes like it was left on the back porch through a long hot weekend (2.75). Cheers! :beers:

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  15. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    I'm pretty sure that @Todd already said that he had no intention of pursuing this so, that being the case, I would propose a totally hypothetical credibility-weighted cumulative average rating where the most recent review receives 40% credibility, the prior 30%, the third 20% and the fourth most recent a 10% weighting. Anything beyond the 4th oldest review is assumed to have no credibility because a) nice round numbers, and b) there's something wrong with you that you even have time to review the same beer that many times. However, based on your reviews to-date, I think it would also be possible - again, if @Todd thinks it worthwhile - to develop a trend factor derived from the four prior reviews which could be applied to the average rating and used to predict the next rating, thereby saving OP the trouble of having to drink that beer again.
     
  16. NorsemanOne

    NorsemanOne Pooh-Bah (2,331) Sep 17, 2021 Utah
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    Hands down agree, and especially for this beer!
     
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  17. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Of course you can do that, but you don't start a thread to suggest current capabilities.

    Plus, no matter how many times you edit a review you always only have whatever your latest score was. I was thinking of a way to leverage a large number of your ratings to get a personal score that gets more accurate over time.

    But Todd made it pretty clear that this is an unworkable idea and won't be pursued so it's not an issue
     
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  18. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    ...this is what I do when I re-visit a beer that I haven't had in a while...
     
  19. dbl_delta

    dbl_delta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,001) Sep 22, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, that's what I took from the OP. My palate is variable, beers are variable, and both will influence my scoring of a given beer.
    If you are really serious about this level of refinement in your scoring, you could always create a spreadsheet to do the weighted scoring for you (and save Todd a lot of work).
     
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    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Where's the fun in that though?
     
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