Same beer (essentially) fermented with 6 different yeast strains

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Below is a video where Nate Lanier of Tree House Brewing evaluates 5 beer brewed with the same malts and hops but fermented with differing yeast strains. An interesting exercise in how impactful yeast strain selection can be to the qualities of the beer.

    Cheers!

     
    #1 JackHorzempa, Apr 4, 2023
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  2. cg123

    cg123 Zealot (548) Feb 27, 2012 Ohio
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    Is he serious with those sips?
     
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  3. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    I watched this early today. I think more industry professionals should do stuff like this. And yes, I realize that plenty have done it before him. I'm just saying.
     
    #3 TheIPAHunter, Apr 5, 2023
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    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    Haha. I can't fault you there. I thought the same.
     
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  5. Genuine

    Genuine Maven (1,347) May 7, 2009 Connecticut

    My homebrew club did a similiar experiment and it was mind opening to the effect of yeast on the same beer base. I can't wait to pick these up and try them with friends. It'll definitely be interesting. I'll need to look but I think it was Scott Janish that also said they were able to make a hoppy/tropical fruit tasting beer, without using a single hop and it was all yeast derived.
     
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  6. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    I watched this earlier, great video! I'd love to try all 8 when they're out but not sure if I'll make it to Tree House soon enough
     
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  7. digitalflood

    digitalflood Pooh-Bah (1,600) Feb 4, 2011 New York
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    How totally nerdy science and math does he get... AND I LOVE IT. I think it's really cool how he went through explaining in simple ways how the yeasts were made and what they did to the beer. I think this is type of stuff is what made me really begin to appreciate beer and food in general. It's amazing how infinite the ability to change the look/feel/taste/smell is by just changing one ingredient or one part of the process. It also is amazing how you can focus on ingredients from a region and get some sense of place then to alter the mix a bit just to get another unexpected, but mind blowing excellent other experience. IDK about people outside this forum, but I'm sure we could all just sit here all day listen to Nate go on about tasting notes.
     
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  8. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Checked their website and it's a four pack. Might swing through this weekend and pick it up. They're open normal hours Easter!
     
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  9. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    They are up to number 6 and for some reasons are selling it as a mixed 12 instead of 6 pack. Gotta push the sell of those old ones.
     
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  10. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I checked Tewksbury, maybe that's at other locations?
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    For those folks who can purchase these beers they would be great candidates for discussion in the “What's the Difference? Share your side-by-side (2023)” thread.

    Cheers!
     
    #11 JackHorzempa, Apr 6, 2023
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  12. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Could be, I had 1-4 last weekend. It was fun to taste the differences and I only had one I didn't enjoy.
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    This recent exercise by Tree House to mix up the yeast used to ferment the same (or essentially the same) beers reminded me of something that Sam Adams did but with hops to create a mixed pack of Latitude IPA beers. Below details the various hops featured and some descriptions of each of the beers:

    “No. 1 East Kent Golding IPA

    Our first bottle that we opened was one that reminded us as an old English style IPA. SNOB Ritch felt that it was sweeter than Bridgeport IPA and felt the bitterness of the hops. Van Wyk ‘s first impression was noticeable oxidation in the pour. I felt that it was on the low end of the scale on hops and bitterness for an IPA.

    No. 2 Mosaic IPA

    Mosaics are a hop that I normally enjoy and this one did not let me down. However the hop profile seemed closer to a Pale Ale than that of an IPA. Van Wyk noted another similar oxidation and a high malt profile.

    No. 3 Hallertau Mittelfrueh IPA

    SNOB Ritch felt this one was his favorite of the single hop beers. He noted that it was less sweet than the other four. He also wondered if this is one of the hops in their signature Boston Lager. And upon further research he was correct. We all felt that this one was the most flavorful of the five single hop beers. Van Wyk appreciated the dry, spicy notes from this one.

    No. 4 Simcoe IPA

    This one was the least malty of the bunch. SNOB Ritch noted hints of onion from the Simcoe hops. I got a bit of grapefruit and pine notes.

    No. 5 Zeus IPA

    I felt that this was the driest of the five. SNOB Ritch noticed more hop aroma. Van Wyk interjected that this is a higher alpha hop so in turn it has a more noticeable hop profile. We then all agreed on that assessment.

    Latitude 48 IPA

    We were happy to finally being able to sample the final blend, Latitude 48 IPA. We all felt that this is was the most balanced offering of the six. Van Wyk stated that this was the most complex of the six. Then SNOB Ritch interjected, “Not bad for a Pale Ale”. I too noticed that it was not the kind of IPA that we are use to on the west coast.”

    https://brewpublic.com/uncategorized/samuel-adams-latitude-48-ipa-deconstructed-12-pack/

    I purchased a case (24 bottles) of this mixed pack when it came out. I thought I discussed it in a past thread but I was not successful in finding a post.

    I seem to recall that the Zeus version was my preferred version but this was so long ago I may be mistaken here.

    Cheers!
     
    #13 JackHorzempa, Apr 6, 2023
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  14. Qu3st

    Qu3st Savant (1,205) Dec 4, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Vitamin Sea does this sometimes, but with hops. Highly underrated brewery if you are near Weymouth MA.

    Great video, I wanted to get a third Double Baked, so now I have an excuse. I have a silly large delivery of beer this week already... might have to bribe the wife.
     
    #14 Qu3st, Apr 6, 2023
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Same base beer but brewed using (solely) different hops akin to the Sam Adams Latitude IPA deconstructed mix-pack I detailed above? Are the differently hopped beers available at the same time so you can conduct a side-by-side-by...tasting?

    Cheers!
     
    #15 JackHorzempa, Apr 6, 2023
  16. Qu3st

    Qu3st Savant (1,205) Dec 4, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Not that I specifically recall. Actually having them at the exact same time is pretty special. More specific single-hop versions of things but at different times.
     
    #16 Qu3st, Apr 6, 2023
  17. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    The local homebrew club did something similar one year. They had a local brewery make a batch of wort, and all the club members got a carboy full. They could then do whatever they wanted with wort: different yeasts, hopping, dry-hopping, etc. The results were interesting.
     
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  18. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Don't a lot of breweries do this these days? Make similar beers but simply change up the hop profile? Or make the same base beer but with a different single hop?

    Example, Proclamation's Derivative series.
     
    #18 AlcahueteJ, Apr 6, 2023
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  19. Qu3st

    Qu3st Savant (1,205) Dec 4, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, I think you are correct. Ignore my post; age catching up with me one day at a time.
     
    #19 Qu3st, Apr 6, 2023
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  20. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    At least it isn't picking up speed
     
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