Weird Rogue can size (13.65 fl oz)

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  1. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,886) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Just got back from the Oregon Coast. I really had a great couple of days.
    Really enjoying Rogues Bay front place way more than I thought.
    Bought a 4 pack of Chocolate Stout.
    Pretty reasonable price.
    To take back to the campground.
    Says it's 13.65 fl oz.
    Weird size. But doesn't look that much different than the 16 oz. Beer here for comparison.
    Just a weird size..
    Any other breweries do this?
     
  2. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I’m not 100% on this but I think it has to do with the nitro. Left Hands Nitro cans say the same thing, only other ones I’ve seen with the odd 13.65 oz number on them.
     
  3. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,886) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    I was thinking that also.
    But i was thinking widget, but Rogue has no widget
     
  4. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Possibly just extra headspace needed in the can for some reason cause of nitro? Now I’m curious and hope someone can give us an answer.
     
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  5. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I recently bought a couple of beers from Siren in the UK, and when I saw them and picked them up, I instantly knew they were slightly smaller. The checkout clerk couldn't tell, even after I pointed it out. Turns out they're 11.2oz instead of 12oz. Showing it next to a 12oz for comparison. Apparently 1/3 liter doses are a thing in the UK, they don't even mention it on their website. No nitro. I suppose it saves a penny on aluminum and cuts shipping weight slightly.

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  6. Dethark

    Dethark Grand Pooh-Bah (3,820) Dec 28, 2020 England
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    330ml is the standard small can size here in the UK, soft drinks and beer. I think the other can works out at 355ml, at least that's what size can Sierra Nevada Pale Ale come in. Nice to see some Siren over there, they're pretty close to me, about a 20 minute drive.

    What size are the cans over coke in the US?
     
  7. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Not sure of the significance but 13.65 oz is .4 liters. Canned beers that say 16oz are likely in a .5 liter can. The cans in your picture appear the same, so just less beer, probably due to the nitro.
     
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    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I believe Coke cans are 12oz, but haven't checked one lately. For pop/soda, I've gone entirely to plastic.
     
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  9. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Googled around a bit. Found that Pepsi Nitro cans are also 13.65oz, maybe the nitro plastic ball and the developing bubbles are given space.

    As for the sizes, here the standard sizes for beer has "always" been 330ml (11.2oz) and 500ml (16.9oz). The UK has 440ml (14.9oz) as an interesting variant.
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    European 500ml cans (labeled 16.9 ounces for the US market) are clearly taller than US 16 ounce cans, while having a similar diameter (likely both using the same industry standard '202' lid).
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    No US brewer would leave that much head space in a beer can and the TTB fines brewers for overfills.
     
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  11. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Guinness is 14.9 oz with the widget inside. 13.6 feels like a play to give you less and charge you more or the same as16oz.

    Enjoy
     
  12. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, it’s 100% the nitro. I’ve seen many nitro cans say this
     
  13. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,886) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    After the replies I am thinking the volume of the nitrogen cannot be included in the volume of beer displayed on the can? So there seems to be a formula for using nitrogen that leaves 13.65 ozs of actual beer in a 16oz can?
     
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  14. ramseye4

    ramseye4 Maven (1,392) May 14, 2010 Virginia

    Not using standard measurements?! Those rogues :wink:
     
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  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    This has been Rogue's approach for years. They were the first to go to the 13 gallon kegs, while keeping the 15.5 gallon pricing.
     
  16. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I think its just Rogue being Rogue.
     
  17. Todd

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  18. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Ha. I went to their website and it shows a can that clearly shows 13.65 ounces.

    Then the description says:
    Format:

    16oz Can 4 Pack Nitro
    Draft Nitro
     
  19. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, you get 13.65 ounces of beer in a 16 ounce can! :grin: It's the old optimist/pessimist quandary - updated for a new age!
    "Is the can 85% full or 15% empty?"
     
  20. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Interestingly (or maybe not), 13.65 ounces would fit just about perfectly in one of those "fake" pint shaker glasses. Just a coincidence?
     
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