Smoked Beer Appreciation Thread (2023)

Discussion in 'The Bar' started by elNopalero, Aug 8, 2023.

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  1. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Probably my favorite rauchbier. This one is pretty old now (bought it last fall) but it’s still tasty and puts me in the mood for falling leaves, cooler weather, and a shallower slant to the sun’s arc across the horizon.
     
  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Mezcal Mules are where it's at!
     
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If a smoked cocktail is what I think it is, isn't that more of a gimmicky presentation than a smoky-tasting beverage? In a bar I once saw a cocktail delivered to a table adjacent to mine along with a heavy glass 'bell' that was placed over the cocktail, and then somehow smoke is produced inside the bell (I don't recall how the server did that) which fully obscures the cocktail inside. But I wonder how much smokiness is imparted into the beverage in the short period of time before the person takes the bell off it to drink it? Or are you describing something else?
     
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  4. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I know someone who got one of those, and the smoke presentation is really just an 'echo' if the drink itself, which features a smoky component.
     
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  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I'm not much for hipster bars, myself. But do have a thing for hipster taco joints. Here's when I came across the Mezcal Mule just last month (pictured with birria )
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    With the right Mezcal it's a smoke lover's delight.
     
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  6. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    This aged well.
     
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  7. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    if this was befire Todd changed posts per page this would still be at one page:yum:

    it's also like 90% talking and 10% actual beer posts:nerd:
     
  8. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Whatever you say. :joy:
     
  9. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,504) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    I haven't had that experience yet. Mostly because rauchbiers don't last that long around me. :grin:
     
  10. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,504) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    I still prefer the Urbock, but this made a mighty fine nightcap last Sunday.

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  11. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    I was just about to post that a West Michigan brewery (or brewpub?) serves one of their beers that way. I kept meaning to go try it (in the name of experimental research of course!) but time gets away from a guy. I'll as my source on that info if he remember where it was and if he ever tried it.
     
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  12. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    Not drinking a smoked beer right now. Just dropping in the say - HECK YEAH! I LOVE SMOKED BEER! ....pretty much smoked anything, though :slight_smile:
     
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  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It will be interesting if your source says it is a brewery in St. Joe or Benton Harbor or that area. I'll have to check my notes as to which brewery, but it was a place over in that neck of the woods.
     
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  14. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Or is the smoke changing from a clean campfire aroma like a brisket off the smoker, to bacon, to ham, then liquid smoke. Yeah that happens as the beer oxidizes.

    I know many that detested the German Rauchbiers back in the day as those were old. When the were on German beer tours thier opinions changed 180 degrees. Fresh is best.
     
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  15. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I'm actually going to bring these seemingly off-topic comments to the topic... if you'll spare the time read the following wall of text....

    It's a thing in whiskys too [beyond peated Scotch whisky]. There are American whisky and bourbon distillers doing some really interesting things using types of wood smoke and/or barrel char. Given that it takes whisky several years to be ready for market, I'm actually surprised there's not more happening with smoked malts in craft brewers who don't have those time/investment costs. Most smoked beers I see are small batch on-site or local-only distribution, which I try when see them, but I didn't bother talking about here, since they would be unavailable to most. Basically the only brewer with widely distributed rauchbiers/smoked beers in the US is Aecht Schlenkerla, as is evident in this discussion. Aecht Schlenkerla is excellent and deserves every bit of praise, but it's expensive- probably at least $5/bottle or can for most of us. I'm honestly surprised that no US brewer has attempted to specialize and compete in the smoked beer niche for super-premium pricing, like Schlenkerla or the many US sour specialty brewers [which also have a polarizing beer style]. Competing with Schlenkerla doesn't have to copying or derivative either-- there's is a lot of room to play and experiment with smoked beer in both a traditional sense, following classic European beer styles, and non-traditional "twists" on styles that American brewers seem want to do. However, I think a brewer will have to go all in and build a full brand and reputation around smoked beers (like Schlenkerla), not one-offs piggybacking on other offerings. While I fully understand smoked beers will probably never be a significant part of the US market, given what's happening with smoke in other beverage spaces, I think there's opportunity that US brewers are missing right now.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Are there certain brands of whisky which detail they are aged in heavily charred oak barrels? If so, are they 'extra' smoky?

    Cheers!
     
  17. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Iron Smoke Bourbon is really nice, although they don't use charred barrels- just smoked grains. The smoke character is actually pretty elegant.
     
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  18. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    Color me curious!
     
  19. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    That’s a great question, and a tough one to answer. My go-to flavor descriptor for smoke is.. smoke. I don’t eat meat and lack the in-depth nuances (everything that happens between the campfire and the liquid smoke) that have been so lovingly described.
     
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  20. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    That beer was sold at Earth Bread Brewery in a 750. You had to drink it there. Never saw it any other place.

    Enjoy
     
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