Cask Appreciation: Piston or Gravity Dispense

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by M-Fox24, Nov 8, 2022.

  1. barrybeerdog

    barrybeerdog Pundit (941) Aug 17, 2012 South Dakota

    Uff dah, that’s a pricey place to drink, but damn, that’s an impressive draft list & cask too!!!
     
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  2. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    It’s not for the area. Beer is expensive here.
     
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  3. soma5

    soma5 Initiate (182) Aug 14, 2023 Texas

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  4. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    In PA, so more ESA, besides another infrequent thread entry: A Spontaneous Real Ale/GABF Winner via cask…not a...

    • Teresa Café & Next Door
    • Pennsylvania, USA
    • 3xActive Beer Engines
        • 1xAngram
        • 2xNot Angram
      • Conditioned
      • Pub Visit: August 19, 2023
    • Spontaneous Ale: Coolship Resurgam
      • Brewery: Allagash
        • Cask Tapped: > 2xWeeks
      • ABV: 6.3%
      • Aspirator: No
      • Immersed: Yes
      • Sparkler: On
        • Pints: 1
    • Extra Special/Strong Bitter: Extra Special Ale (ESA)
      • Brewery: Yards
        • Cask Tapped: < 1xWeek
      • ABV: 6%
      • Aspirator: No
      • Immersed: Yes
      • Sparkler: On
        • Pints: 1
      • Sparkler: Off
        • Pints: 1



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  5. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I realize it’s a different animal, but how was the Allagash post two weeks?
     
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  6. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    More relaxed and more at ease per the lessened degrees on acerbity, by evaporation/oxidation: Teresa’s is – on the face of it – handling/upholding these casks appropriately, which plays a significant role (e.g. bacteria/bugs are being managed via the publican)

    …a piston-pull outtake, for those interested -


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    Granted, this topic is a thread exception, which has been articulated…The Referend is the most affluent in articulating this exception in the Mid-Atlantic/on the East Coast, providing the stillness & the engaged microorganisms
     
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  7. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Another issue is that the judges' palates are probably different from the commenters'. And the first few BA reviews of the cask seem fairly positive too. I know my palate has shifted over the years, to some extent following the trend toward paler, hoppier beers. Maybe a tempest in a teapot (or a mash tun)?
     
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  8. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    Lines rotted during COVID, and there are currently no plans to resurrect the piston pump. Nonetheless, BT usually has a gravity cask on display -


    • Blind Tiger
    • New York, USA
    • 2xBeer Engines
      • Inactive/Inoperative
    • 1xGravity Dispensed Cask
      • Cask-conditioned
      • Cask Tapped: August 23, 2023
      • Pub Visit: August 25, 2023
    • English-style Pale Ale (ESB): Unlicensed
      • Brewery: Fifth Hammer
      • ABV: 5.1%
      • Immersed: No
        • Pints: 2



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  9. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Nice to see Yards ESA out the in wild. In my first few years of beer drinking, that was the beer most often featured by places that would tap a cask on a Friday night. Now it's a rarity to see, but Yards recently announced on social media they are going to can ESA again for a Fall/Winter variety pack
     
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  10. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    Yards started to incorporate this into the schedule more frequently post the ‘2022 Real Ale Invitational’ via Cask through local establishments: The Standard Tap, Teresa’s, Dandelion (arguably unrivaled per handling) + Onsite @ Yards…

    …most folks (e.g. visitors, tourists) looking for cask in the area are directed towards F&M, which is appropriate & rightfully so. Nevertheless, will usually toss in…


     
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  11. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Now that its jogging my memory, I did have a pint of ESA last Fall from the beer engine at Varga Bar in Philly. I found the post
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...rinking-now-2022.664092/page-287#post-7667940
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Back in the day I drank a lot of cask ESA (plus other Yards cask beers) at Dawsons Street Pub in Manayunk; they had 3 beer engines going. In the early days of Yards there was the 'local connection' since they brewed their beer in the very small brewery on Umbria Street.

    Cheers!
     
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  13. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    • Local 44
    • Pennsylvania, USA
    • 2xBeer Engines (Angram)
      • 1xActive
      • Conditioned
      • Tapped: < Week
      • Pub Visit: August 26, 2023
    • English-style Pale Ale (ESB): Puddlers Row ESB (2xWBC Winner)
      • Brewery: Conshohocken
      • ABV: 5.4%
      • Aspirator: No
      • Immersed: Yes
      • Sparkler: Off
        • Pints: 1
      • Sparkler: On
        • Pints: 1

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  14. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    St Austell and Verdant release collaboration cask beer (morningadvertiser.co.uk)

    • "…made with Verdant’s own yeast and three new experimental English hopping varieties…Both breweries are coming at things from a different angle and that’s the true point of collaboration, different ideas from different places that coalesce to make one product that is great and brings something new to the table that neither one of us would have thought about doing..."


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    St Austell is part of a collaborative mission...

     
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  15. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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  16. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    One of those uncustomary occasions, where Preston isn’t throwing unnecessary materials into the faß…

    • High Point (Ramstein)
    • New Jersey, USA
    • 1xGerman Gravity Dispense
      • Cask Tapped/Spigoted: September 1, 2023
      • Visit: September 1, 2023
    • Doppelbock: Bourbon Barrel Winter Wheat
      • ABV: 9.5%
      • Immersed: Yes (marginally)

    Sidenote:
    Mayor to be tapping ‘Oktoberfest from the Wood’ per tradition/last year on September 9, 2023




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  17. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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  18. galttfwo

    galttfwo Devotee (363) Jan 2, 2007 New Jersey

    Looking like it will be Saturday October 7th (subject to change), and will be Burrow Nut Brown, Plumage British style Pale Ale, and Thicket Best Bitter all on gravity pins and draft versions for comparison.
     
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