Are You Drinking GMO Beer?

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  1. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Grand Pooh-Bah (5,343) Dec 11, 2006 California
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    Saw this from a post on Instagram from GMO Free America:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CxQH9PBIYsO/

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    Some breweries are embracing extreme genetic engineering technology known as synthetic biology or CRISPR gene editing to bio engineer their beer.

    Craft breweries known to use GMO yeast:
    • Noble Rey Brewing
    • Perennial Artesian Ales
    • Devil and the Deep Brewery
    • Broad Ripple Brew Pub, Drakes Brewing
    • Fieldwork Brewing
    • Temescal Brewing
    • Lagunitas
    • Watts Brewing
    • Single Speed Brewing
    • Bissel Brothers/Sapwood Cellars collaboration
    • Cellarmaker Brewing.
    No GMO label. No safety testing.

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    Question: Do you care?
     
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  2. NorsemanOne

    NorsemanOne Pooh-Bah (2,331) Sep 17, 2021 Utah
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    I absolutely was curious, and clicked right in.

    Question: Do you care? Nah, not enough to make a change. Though I've never seen the breweries near enough to me with the exception of lagunitas, which doesn't get broad enough distro to pique my interest.
     
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  3. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    NOPE. not even a little. But Ive also only heard of 6 of the breweries on that list.

    GMO beer yeast doesnt bother me even a little bit. There are way worse things in foods than GMO yeast.

    There are also way worse "food products" and things that we consume to mimic food to worry about GMO yeast in beer. ever see Cheeze with the "Z" at the grocery store. there is a reason they cant call it cheeSe....

    So much of our food is so far removed from actually being grown or raised and harvested for us, that is much more concerning than the GMO yeast.
     
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  4. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I don't see any reason to believe that list of breweries is exhaustive. I'd wager that most breweries that brew "juicy" ipas have at least experimented with gmo yeast. The primary type of gmo yeast seems geared at producing more thiols, which produce desirable flavors for those fruity ipas
     
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  5. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I’m no expert on any subject just my 2 cents. Without GMO things like modern wheat, corn and broccoli and whatever else wouldn’t exist. I have heard horror stories of Monsanto and whoever else trying to monopolize farming but in general GMO has also helped human beings in a way. Everything is good and bad.
     
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  6. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Grand Pooh-Bah (5,343) Dec 11, 2006 California
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    But with GMO comes the use of glyphosate (which has been linked to cancer).
     
  7. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Well this thread might get political fast. Call me a skeptic (admittedly, an uninformed one—the following is based on simple common sense and a belief in humans’ responsibility to be stewards of earth’s environment). Yes, genetic modifications have benefited humans—one of millions of species that inhabit only this planet in the entire universe. Do we know that no long-term harm will be caused by playing around with the DNA of other organisms? Can anyone guarantee that? If not, caution is in order. Just because we can do something doesn’t necessarily mean we should. As with many other things, I trust nature more than I trust science—it literally has a 4-billion-year head start.
     
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  8. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    A roundup ready (GMO) mass grown crop is quite different from a GM yeast. The glyphosate comes from the round up.
     
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  9. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    This is objectively untrue. Modern genetic modification has never produced a single novel crop. It has primarily produced plants that are resistant to certain pesticides so that the fields can be sprayed indiscriminately without damaging the main crop.

    It has also been used to confer some other characteristics like resistance to a viral infection in papayas, lack of bruising after being sliced in apples, ability to withstand very low temperatures in tomatoes, and production of vitamin A in rice.

    But well over 90% of genetically modified crop acres are simply to allow for the liberal use of herbicides on the field.
     
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  10. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I don’t think it’s avoidable, if not yeast it’s the barley, corn etc in the beer.

    Go watch King Corn and you can see how evil the seed companies are.

    Enjoy
     
  11. Troy-Hawaii

    Troy-Hawaii Pooh-Bah (1,985) Jun 15, 2015 Hawaii
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    I probably am drinking GMO beer, but I'm not going to check.
     
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  12. ramseye4

    ramseye4 Maven (1,392) May 14, 2010 Virginia

    Am I drinking gmo beer? I have no idea, probably. Do I care? No, not really.
     
  13. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I’m no expert. Thanks for info.
     
  14. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    GMO is terrible and a large part as to why you can’t buy real bread in the US anymore.
     
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  15. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    What?
     
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  16. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Yeah the biotechnology industry has made a concerted effort to confuse people about their products. A favorite tactic has been to insist that traditional plant breeding (which is where we got things like broccoli, potatoes, and wheat) is a form of genetic modification.

    The reason I started avoiding gmo foods was related to the practical reality that the available crops are all modified specifically to allow more herbicide use, which I'd prefer we see reduced not increased. But the shady behavior by the industry over the last couple decades has left me sceptical of their whole enterprise. They sure haven't acted like people without something to hide.

    I have intentionally not purchased beers that advertised their use of gmo yeast. But I realize I have no real way of knowing whether any particular beer has used it or not. I wish there were labeling requirements. You'd think the companies that make the stuff would want a way for customers to be sure they were getting their premium products.
     
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  17. Nugganooch

    Nugganooch Grand Pooh-Bah (4,480) Jan 13, 2011 California
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    Alcohol is a known carcinogen. Take that GMO's!
     
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  18. HouseOfAles

    HouseOfAles Aspirant (200) Sep 8, 2023 Michigan

    It’s hard with all the commercial beers out there. I’m sure there are lots of GMO’s in them. Same with food. And I have consumed my fair share. It’s not the GMO’s actually. They are produced so they can spray more pesticides. As for me, my homebrew is probably 95% organic. My hops and everything in my garden are organic. No Pesticides!
     
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  19. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Unrelated to beer and the thread but I’ll state that I do personally eat a 95% vegetarian diet. It depends because if I’m sick I don’t care to do all the prep work and will eat chicken nuggets then proceed to shit myself for days. Anyways I eat organic whenever possible. But in relation to the thread. I’m not checking if beer is gmo or not. It’s not something i care about with that.

    I know the whole talk of what’s truly organic and whatever as well but thats also off topic
     
  20. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    It's funny that this group is trying to spread the idea that these GMO yeasts haven't been extensively tested for safety by the labs that created them. The entire point of these strains is that they produce specific desirable compounds, or that metabolic pathways that produce undesirable compounds like diacetyl have been removed. Trying to lump these yeasts into a broad category with other highly processed foods made from GMOs or say that the beer is "artificial" is laughable at best, and at worst intellectually dishonest fearmongering.
     
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