Beers Best Enjoyed at the Source

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  1. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    With 9000+ breweries in the US there's little doubt that we've shown a great appreciation for fresh beer on tap. But some beers or beer styles may lend themselves especially to being enjoyed direct from the source.

    Personally, I think the best example of this for me has been Pliny the Elder on tap at the brewery. That beer, when it's days fresh, is an absolute delight, no question how it built its reputation. But, in truth, I don't think that many modern American styles lend themselves to this kind of special experience at the source.

    What have you all experienced with beers that only show their true glory when enjoyed at the source?

    Credit to @steveh for suggesting this thread
     
  2. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Fond memories of Augustiner at the Keller, Schlenkerla at the Stube, Guinness at the Gate, and Pale Ale in Chico.

    Going locally classic, any of the Goose Island beers I had at 1800 N. Clybourn when they first opened (what an era), Capital in Middleton, Sprecher in their original location, and Lakefront at their original brewery on Milwaukee's east side.
     
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  3. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Most any brewery that is serving a Czech pilsner through a Lukr faucet is worthwhile to drink from the source. Even with my best attempts at pouring slow from the can, I just can't replicate that dense and hearty head of foam and frothy liquid below.

    If I had to name one though: Alma Mader's Premiant.
     
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    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Any beer made in brewery that's not in an industrial park?
     
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  5. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    FWIW -- my original thought on this thread was sparked by @AlcahueteJ and his visit to Urquell -- thus, thinking classic beers at their source.

    I've had some very good beers brewed in traditional styles and served in traditional methods (many even in industrial parks), but none that I'd consider "classic."

    Such as -- Fuller's ESB at the London brewery. Forgot to mention it above.
     
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    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Yeah that's what I'm most curious about, not just a brewery space that's beautiful but a traditional serving style that doesn't really translate to packaged product.

    Obviously the romanticization of the tradition adds to it, but there's also just some things that don't come through in a bottle or can
     
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    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Beyond the classic examples that we have likely all heard about, there are 3 styles that are high on my personal list to try from the source.

    1. Zoigl
    2. Nordic Raw ale
    3. Andean Chicha
     
  8. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    @Todd ?
     
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    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The unfiltered and unpasteurized Pilsner Urquell that Jacob poured for me at the Pilsner Urquell cellar brewery:

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    Na Zdravi
     
  12. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    I'm a firm believer that tap beer is the best beer. I've never drank a beer on tap that I felt was a less desirable experience than that same beer in a can/bottle. This applies to Miller Lite as well. Cheers.
     
  13. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Well you see, the real issue is that "southern Scandinavia" doesn't exist!

    But really, the little bit I've read about the style/tradition makes it seem like South western Scandinavia has enough of a central European influence that this old farmhouse brewing tradition either hasn't survived or never took hold. Seems to be more of an Eastern baltic/Nordic tradition
     
  14. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Not to be negative but I wanted to offer one up the other way, Heady Topper on tap at the alchemist is hand pulled which gives it a nitro taste which I think mutes flavors and carbonation bigly. I heard it's on tap at blackback pub in Waterbury VT and see if it's closer to the canned version I love.
     
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    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    One of my favorite beer experiences was Rubaeus Nitro on tap. Just goes to show certain beers benefit from those properties while others do not. Cheers.
     
  16. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    @BigIronH ... @jageraholic is referring to the onsite caskerator, which is a modified piston/engine: this is not ‘live ale’, but will still (subjectively) benefit off the environmental factors….‘young’



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    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    That's the one! And benefits is very subjective :slight_smile:
     
  18. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    100% agree. A good analogy is music. All else being equal, live music is objectively superior in almost every way to its recorded counterpart. The only advantage recorded music (and packaged beer) has over live music (draft beer)—and it’s a huge one—is convenience.
     
  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Hmm, not sure a sparkler is the best choice there. Of course they can also pull it off.
     
  20. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    As a fan of hip hop I can tell you that there are serious benefits to having professional, highly skilled, studio production vs whoever the sound guy is in a given venue. But I think they fits into your analogy. As long as the provider of live music (or draught beer) takes their medium seriously then you're on point. But when you introduce the factor of shlubby proprietors you run into issues.

    Of course, that's the whole point of this thread! What are beers that don't (can't?) get presented in their peak form without going to the source?

    Besides the more obscure ones I listed earlier I think that visiting Bamberg to try rauchbier straight from the source is probably my true top destination
     
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