Trillium Celebrating Dr. King Like it's 2018

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  1. CassandraOfTroy

    CassandraOfTroy Initiate (102) Nov 19, 2018 Massachusetts

    It always makes you feel good when a company has its values properly aligned with its practice, right? That's why I was so delighted to see this post today from Trillium Brewing Company.
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    When you see a business with the footprint and net worth of Trillium utilizing the words of Dr. King, a noted anticapitalist, you can't help but feel like maybe there's real visionary leadership there. Sure, on Friday 1/12 they notified 14 of their 20 employees at their Fenway location that they were being shifted from part-time to "per diem" status, meaning they would no longer be put on the schedule. Maybe business is too slow for us to continue paying your $6/hour wage, but we are committed to the idea that all work is significant and all humans, regardless of full-time or part-time status, are inherently possessed of dignity. The cognitive dissonance here is ridiculous. The promises were made that calls would be made to workers who are being put on hiatus for shift coverage as needed, and they would bring workers back in April, but in the meantime, when the Boston service industry is at its absolute slowest, they told workers "Good luck! See you when things thaw out!"
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    Trillium. Let's add a new location every year and expand our offerings into a full spirit program, but the people who make the place run on a daily basis are devoid of value.
     
  2. RedEcho

    RedEcho Devotee (394) Oct 23, 2012 Massachusetts

    I don't work in this industry and so I guess I'm left wondering: while this seems pretty awful, is it typical? Like, for example, does a Dairy Queen furlough part of the work force for the winter? I mean, I guess I could see a mom and pop ice cream shop not having a choice - but a bigger operation (like a DQ, or maybe a Trillium?) may have more wiggle room...but maybe that's just how it's done? Didn't know if anyone has any insight.
     
  3. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I guess I don’t fully understand the motivations behind this, or why these employees now qualify for new benefits, but this just kinda seems like a shitty way to staff your operation.
     
  4. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    I have bowls of popcorn ready.

    Boston sucks in winter. They are most likely overstaffed. Demand onsite is most likely down. The business owners made a business decision. I have also been laid off in corporate America in the past, it’s sucks. But it’s part of life. I’m trying to see the hate and need to quote MLK in this post? No one said their work is insignificant. But their business costs may not align to the need.
     
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  5. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Damn that's unfortunate. I'm in the same boat now I got laid off about a month ago. Shit sucks out there man
     
  6. CassandraOfTroy

    CassandraOfTroy Initiate (102) Nov 19, 2018 Massachusetts

    Just seems disingenuous for them to post that 72 hours after essentially laying off 70% of their staff at one location.
     
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  7. yuppiescum

    yuppiescum Zealot (519) Jun 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    Corporate social media disingenuous? Nah..
     
  8. Patrick_in_DC

    Patrick_in_DC Devotee (382) May 8, 2015 Maryland

    Because to most people MLK is about race in the US and not about capitalism. But you knew that.
     
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  9. Shyla987

    Shyla987 Zealot (599) Jul 18, 2013 Connecticut

    Except the MLK quote Trillium used is specifically about labor and work, immediately following a reduction in staff. Odd timing and I agree with OP that it was out of place in the context. There are a thousand MLK quotes they could have used to honor him or his ideals.

    I don't fully understand this new benefits thing and yeah, seasonality can definitely affect staffing levels downward in many industries. But Trillium's track record is not great so my inclination with them is always: Do better.
     
  10. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    Why don’t you just ask Mr Trillium
     
  11. Clarkvv

    Clarkvv Devotee (384) Mar 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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  12. MrEff

    MrEff Crusader (478) Mar 21, 2017 Massachusetts
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  13. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Just want to put this here:

    https://www.brewbound.com/news/mass...collaborate-on-black-is-beautiful-initiative/

    I've also personally talked to another blacked owned brewery owner (just last year) about their amazing relationship with and support from JC and Esther.

    I realize this thread is based on employee driven issues, which it's no secret back in 2018 they had. But I think starting a thread title like that would be a bad look, and would potentially just further drive those in the industry away from this website.
     
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  14. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I kinda read it more as "here are the (lessened) benefits you now qualify for under per diems status" which includes just 5 days sick instead of something higher for FTEs? Who knows...
     
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  15. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    TBH I’m not 100% connecting the dots or understanding the motive of this post (the tone's a bit thick) other than to shit on trillium because one’s job got reduced to per diem status. Though that alone I’m sorry to hear. I feel for anyone losing work who needs it, I've been there, too, it seriously sucks.

    To play devil’s advocate though on the MLK post - that message can still apply to a company’s ethos outside of the ebb and flow of practical staffing needs as a result of changes in customer traffic or seasonality to a specific location. Tone deaf? Eh, maybe/kinda, but I perceive it more funny that a brewery (or almost any for-profit company) thinks their work “uplifts humanity” regardless of staffing changes.

    @CassandraOfTroy sorry if I’m asking the obvious but I assume you work for Trillium?
     
  16. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    This
     
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  17. CassandraOfTroy

    CassandraOfTroy Initiate (102) Nov 19, 2018 Massachusetts

    If I did, I don't now. It's just Trillium being Trillium and being devoid of integrity. Profit over everything.

    Switching 70% of the staff to per diem status when most people will struggle to find replacement work within the industry is obviously problematic. But if you do that, most of them will quit, or if you don't call them back it's not like you actually fired them...it's just business. In the past year they've also switched the plastic cups at their beer gardens and Fenway to cups that are 2 oz. smaller while keeping pricing the same; if you've visited one of those, it's blatantly obvious. This is all while those beer garden bartenders were making $40+ hourly in tips, so the money was pouring in. The numbers there are astounding. The Common in particular was especially lucrative, but it also had MASSIVE security issues from the surrounding area, but Trillium could not be bothered to pay for a single security guard to mitigate those. People suffering from mental illness showing up with weapons and threatening staff? Just another day at the office.

    Introducing "mixed drinks" (10ish% seltzer base, so straight sugar water), then charging $12 a pour - the profit margins on that are exponential. They've reduced dented can offerings for staff members, for no real reason. Those cannot be sold. On that subject, if you ever visit a Trillium location and see something like Vicinity (C) on the menu, that designates it's a can pour. Why a can pour? Because that beer is right on the verge of being 90 days old and coding out, assuming it's a Pale Ale, IPA, or DIPA. Can't let that happen, have to make sure they can turn liquid into cash. Decreased demand for product is why can pours became a thing at the Greenway and the Common; that's never been an issue before. The truth is, do yourself a favor and pass on any hoppy offering that is a can pour, it's probably going to be sweet. And with that being said, the beer gardens have historically been the place where old kegs go to die. Send it there, they'll pop in days, saving revenue. Zero upkeep/maintenance, pure profit off beer that would otherwise be dumped, that's why things like buying Spencer are possible. What else...let's see, how about running the numbers and realizing that keeping your businesses open an additional hour until midnight (Fenway), is easy revenue? Apparently the cost to run the establishment, including utilities and labor, is roughly $27. Sell three beers, you've made a profit. Sure, in the first 3 months of the extended hours they made roughly 5k in those specific hours, but hey, 5k is better than nothing, right? It does mean that your staff members get out of work at a time when they can barely catch the T home, and sure you're going to lose those staff members who walk, but that's the cost of doing business. Much better to plug in a new 23-year-old than retain staff who are knowledgeable about the product.

    Anyway, Trillium doesn't care about its people. It's not news. It wasn't that long ago that they fired almost all of their FOH staff in Canton because conditions were so miserable there that people were drinking A LOT just to make the job somewhat tolerable. Anyway. Ask me anything.
     
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  18. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Not confirming or denying anything in this post, but wanted to add that I did see a security guard there on my last visit late in the season.

    Maybe they added them after an incident?
     
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  19. TmaveTebow

    TmaveTebow Zealot (744) Sep 3, 2013 New York
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    I’m curious how working conditions were so miserable that employees were driven to drinking a lot? Please elaborate
     
  20. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I feel like drinking on the job, especially heavily, is a bad idea for a number of reasons.
     
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