Sam Adams 40th Anniversary

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  1. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Did anyone go to the one at the Downtown Boston tap room last weekend? Below is the event at the original tap room being held this Saturday. It’s ticketed, but seems like it might be cool.

    VIP and Super Sam tickets are sold out, but I imagine there might be some goodies like Utopia or aged cellar beers along with those.

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  2. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    It does sound interesting but it’s tough given the OG spot is pretty much a drive to and drive out spot. Would be nice if it was a closer Uber to a place to stay. Honestly, not sure if anyone was part of this but being on their after hours beer panel meeting during the mid 2000’s was amazing. So much to try and certainly had some utopias tastings as well. This was separate from the open houses.
     
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  3. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Bit more info here…all four seasonals? They must be brewing some just for this event.

    “Like any good beer festival, we’ll be pouring a range of styles and each will tie into the journey of craft beer over the last four decades. Our stacked lineup of 15 samples will include: throwback beers from the vault, all four seasonals, limited-edition collaborations, and our newest innovations”
     
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  4. sefus12

    sefus12 Pundit (938) Sep 7, 2006 Wisconsin
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    We contemplated going, but ultimately decided against it as the Uber to/from the brewery is quite pricey, especially combined with tix. Not to mention the potential of traffic issues with the Sumner closed for the weekend.
     
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  5. rhino88888888

    rhino88888888 Zealot (694) Dec 12, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Are we talking about the Sam Adams taproom in Jamaica Plain that is a five minute walk from the Stony Brook Orange Line MBTA stop or is there some secret location I'm unaware of?
     
  6. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    No, that’s it. But it’s an event I’d probably want to not have to drive and I don’t think we’d be up for going out of the city if we were staying in town. I’m quite familiar with the area. No worries
     
  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I think he's just saying it's MBTA accessible so it's not that difficult to get to.

    For example, it's about a 35-40 minute drive for me from Medford, but I can easily hop on the Orange Line at Wellington and take it straight there.
     
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  8. sefus12

    sefus12 Pundit (938) Sep 7, 2006 Wisconsin
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    My North Shore town doesnt have a train stop. Nor do I really care to spend an hour+ each direction to use buses/trains. Any other comments?
     
  9. rhino88888888

    rhino88888888 Zealot (694) Dec 12, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Nope. Sorry if my message came off as snarky, I just gotta pump our dying public transit system whenever I can. Glad to hear you are taking ubers. Cheers!
     
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  10. sefus12

    sefus12 Pundit (938) Sep 7, 2006 Wisconsin
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    No worries. I wish the public transit system were better. We used it all the time when we lived around DC and Chicago. Just not near as convenient north of downtown here.
     
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  11. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Not great, but you could drive to Malden Center and take the Orange line in.

    I pulled the trigger on VIP tickets and I plan on taking it in from Wellington.
     
  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    This event was totally worth it.

    Hadn’t been to this tap room in years, it’s a nice setup if you’re into history.

    Jim Koch was hanging out and Will Meyers was at the event too. And the owner of Brockton Beer Co.

    My VIP ticket included a trip to their barrel room for some 2005 Utopia.
     
  13. rhino88888888

    rhino88888888 Zealot (694) Dec 12, 2013 Massachusetts
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    !!! Sounds like a great event!
     
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  14. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I realize that Alabama frozen embryos (< which is a great name for a punk band) are children and some believe that life begins at conception - after all, don't we all have cake and sing Happy Conception Day on the date when mom and dad first, uh, "met" in the back of that Chevy, but how does one explain a 40th Anniversary being celebrated 39 years after a beer was first released?
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    Koch has typically been unclear when that first commercial batch of SABL was brewed although he does claim he didn't even pick the name until after it was in the bottle. Contrary to BBC, Anheuser Busch once famously labeled that a beer was "Born On" the day it was packaged,

    So, I guess it's the 40th anniversary of when Koch first thought of it?
     
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  15. Jbrews

    Jbrews Pooh-Bah (2,214) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    This is way too deep. Even for us on Beeradvocate
     
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    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Math? :astonished: I know, while I can touch-type (sophmore year HS), I never did learn the calculator feature on the number section of a computer keyboard...
     
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    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    BBC was founded in 1984. It's not a big leap.
     
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  18. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    From their website, seems like it's the 40th anniversary of the first batch of Boston Lager he ever brewed:

    Even though he followed that path for several years, he always kept an eye on the beer business. In 1984 his instincts told him it was time to make his move; people were starting to crave something different in their beer.

    With his great-great grandfather Louis Koch’s beer recipe in hand, Jim brewed the very first batch of Samuel Adams Boston Lager in his kitchen.
     
  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    This too, according to multiple resources including wikipedia (not that that's always accurate).
     
  20. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, that's been the BBC PR line for quite awhile - although, in the early days, the "homebrewed in his kitchen" trope wasn't around - Koch distance his beer and brewery from homebrewing and, particular, microbrewing in the beginning.
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    (That likely changed after SABL's controversial GABF wins in the late 1980s).

    But the question becomes (philosophically, almost :grin: ) how does one define a particular beer? Is it the recipe or merely the brand name? Koch's own book Quench Your Own Thirst ©2016 (:rolling_eyes: - never understood how a marketing genius picked that title) makes it clear that when the first commercial batch brewed at Pittsburgh hit Boston, they still hadn't settled on a name:
    The recipe of a specific beer, in the case of SABL (and, really, all other beers with a history) is more complicated. Koch claims the recipe, found in his father's brewing files, was from the 1860s. Homebrewing in the early-1980s was generally pretty primitive (all-grain, i.e., no syrup or malt powder, in a kitchen wasn't common) and ingredients, available for purchase for 5 gallon sized batches were limited. And Koch describes brewing numerous batches, implying recipe changes. Whatever homebrew he made, it obviously was not a legal BATF approved commercial beer.

    Koch hires brewing consultant Joe Owades "in late 1984" who (according to his obituary in Modern Brewery Age) "found modern counterparts for long gone barley strains and hop varieties, and introduced some key procedures, including dry hopping and krausening". So, is it that same1860s recipe? Koch and Owades brew a ~10 gallon ( of a barrel) batch at UC Davis, but Koch doesn't like the results "not enough hops". Again, an implied recipe change.
    That is true.

    And according to the US Patent and Trademark Office's TESS listing for "Boston Beer Company":

    Yeah, lots of little technicalities but, for me, a beer's existence as well as a brewing company's founding date should really be the day and year it's first beer was available and sold commercially.:grin:

    (I won't even bring up Koch's trying to claim the 1828 starting date of the previous Boston Beer Co., in an article pitting him against Dick Yuengling in a 2004 INC magazine article. :astonished:)
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