Musings on Budweiser

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Squire, Mar 11, 2024.

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  1. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    It seems to me sales were flagging and AB leadership decided to shoot the messengers bearing bad news and bring in new talent. The lady they put in charge of marketing (don't recall her name) was given the lamentable task of reversing falling sales while increasing volume at the same time. She failed, the corporate marketing plan backfired and she was sent out to face the public armed only with weak excuses.
     
  2. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Just to clarify, no. I am unmoved by advertising generally and don't blame the ad exec for reciting what she was told to say. It's the collective corporate attitude behind her comments that caught my attention.

    Corporate hubris can get stuffed.
     
  3. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Grand Pooh-Bah (3,740) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I just finished reading through the thread and it seems to me that most if not all responses to the OP were respectful and were those of others giving their own opinions/perspectives.
     
  4. thebeers

    thebeers Grand Pooh-Bah (5,837) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    I guess our difference is that I don’t find entering a marketing relationship with a trans woman in the least bit controversial.

    Corporate hubris about … thinking they can get away with calling their old ad campaigns “fratty”? Or thinking they can celebrate a trans woman?
     
  5. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Just responding to posts and my answers remain the same. I don't blame Alissa Heinerscheid for doing what she was hired to do or saying what she was told to say.

    I blame the corporate executives and charge them with having an arrogant disregard for their customers. Like a comedian who tells bad jokes and then blames the audience for not laughing.
     
  6. LAFreeway

    LAFreeway Zealot (669) Aug 2, 2023 California

    Thank for taking the time to type that out. I started drinking beer around 1990, so we had Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams, Pete’s Wicked and a few others “microbrews”to choose from, so I never had to go down the Bud, Miller, Coors route, but when I have had one of those three beers, Budweiser was my least favorite. It’s thin and kind of sour, where is the other two have a little more body.

    A couple years back I had the Schlitz “1960s formula“ or something like that and it was very enjoyable. I think if I were in your boat, I would’ve been a Schlitz fan too.

    One thing I’ve been wondering recently is if the AAL’s were not so watered down and tasteless, would the craft beer revolution have happened? I think it would have since the styles made by craft brewers have been around for centuries, it just took a little while for them to become fashionable again in the US.
     
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  7. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    No, I quit the product because I now have access to a range of craft and imported beers that I prefer over AALs. That's a palate choice, not an emotional one.

    I've crossed Bud off my future AAL purchases list because I think their corporate attitude stinks.
     
  8. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Man I wish I could, I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning. I do recall one of the commentators referring to Bud customers as "average blokes" so I was probably watching BBC.

    What can be easily found is the two-faced public statement released by AB which claimed "Senior executives" had "no knowledge" of their own marketing campaign.
     
  9. AZgman

    AZgman Pooh-Bah (1,858) Dec 22, 2011 Arizona
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    I have never bought a beer based on an advertisement. I view ads as entertainment, which (subjectively) can be bad or good, but they have nothing to do with whether or not what they are promoting is actually bad or good.
     
  10. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Fox News? What's that?
     
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  11. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Well. since this is about marketing and advertising. I'm still not sure why a guy who has been drinking since the 60s is concerned about the marketing decisions intended for an audience that is 21 - 30.
     
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  12. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    More likely an absence of thought.
     
  13. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I cannot honestly say that as I have been influenced by beer advertising in the past. I was swayed by the Swedish Bikini Team and the liked the Hamms Bear.
     
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  14. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    This is kind of what I was getting at earlier and that I find fascinating. I can’t imagine a world in which I would consciously go out and buy a beer (or any product) because of an advertising campaign even if I thought it was brilliant. Nor would I buy a product because they used a spokesperson I really liked or admired. It just doesn’t compute for me. I’m not saying anyone is wrong for doing that or that I’m right for not doing it—it’s just one of those weird quirks about differences between people that I find really intriguing.
     
  15. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Oh I'm not concerned about their marketing decisions, don't even thing about it. What blisters my varnish is a bunch of duplicious fat cats at the top of AB management who are driven by greed and blinded by arrogance.
     
  16. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    You're right in that the American lager beer style was easy for the craft brewers to differentiate themselves from. The US west was a desert of boring beers. There were some special circumstances. Anchor Steam was given new life by Maytag, and New Albion and Sierra Nevada started up in the '70s, inspired by Anchor. Then in the Northwest homebrew was reasonably popular. The first startup was Cartwright in about '80. About '84, Fred Eckhardt eventually got a column in the big daily Portland newspaper. Good food in general, and special coffees, were becoming popular around that time too. All pretty sensible. But I really didn't anticipate and don't understand the current ultra-proliferation of breweries and varieties of beer.
     
  17. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Boy, you're all over the place on this issue
     
  18. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Drink independent beer then. That's what this site is intended to promote. As such. I'm still confused. It's a publicly traded company. It's multi-national, even. This isn't new news, either. The decision to use the second runnings and make bud light as a result is, and always has been a cash grab. That was as true when it was originally released as it is now.
     
  19. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    It's a very moving the goalposts kind of operation.
     
  20. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Not emotional about it, doesn't really care

    Starts forum thread and makes multiple replies calling out insults from the comment and calling them greedy and duplicitous :thinking_face:
     
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