Hamm’s Appreciation Thread (2024)

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  1. miwestcoaster

    miwestcoaster Grand Pooh-Bah (3,981) Jan 19, 2013 Michigan
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    See my post #15. 18 to 26 week shelf life. So 5 - 6 months. Too bad they don’t put the canned date on the can. Just the day of the week and time of day.
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  2. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Maven (1,347) Jan 8, 2015 California

    Canned on date of 1/15/2024. Very tasty. It does feel a bit big for a pilsner (5.3%) so a little on the sweet side with a bigger mouthfeel. It certainly does dry out asking for replenishment. Hopefully it's back for good but that all depends on sales.
     
  3. JISurfer

    JISurfer Grand Pooh-Bah (3,006) Dec 10, 2002 Utah
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    Actually found Hamm's here in Utah! Hasn't been on the shelves in my area for a while. $13 for a case. I haven't bought a case of beer, probably since college (won't say how long ago that was :grimacing:), and it felt obnoxious to carry a case of beer, but it was the only way to get it. It'll last me a while, probably cook with it too.

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  4. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Beautiful shot! And the mountains ain't shabby either. :laughing:
     
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Funny, looks like they've given some of their beers 1 extra week of shelf life. Here's a 'snapshot' of an older pdf with "17" as the first number of weeks:
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    I'd call "between 18 and 26 weeks" closer to 4 months - 6 months, but 17 weeks was closer to 4 months, rather than going over a few days.

    But does "intrinsic characteristics" = "how fast it typically sells" ?:wink:

    They changed the length of the dates but never updated their brewery codes which are supposedly now as noted above, right. (I don't have the Georgia brewery's code, but I'm guessing it might be 1050? :grin:)

    They've got enough room on the pdf to just say which of their beers' dates are based on 18 weeks and which are 26, too - and then one could just do the math.
     
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  6. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    "predicated on the particular brand and its intrinsic characteristics"

    Good grief, what gobbledygook.
     
  7. TwilightBeerCareer

    TwilightBeerCareer Pooh-Bah (2,260) Feb 13, 2021 Illinois
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    Giving Hamm's some free advertising in Myrtle Beach, SC. a few years ago. Had a nephew that lived in Seaside get married on the beach. Great time! (Except for my niece in this photo, she didn't like me very much back then.)
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  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Not that I'm ever likely to find out, but I would be curious to know what sort of aroma and flavor characteristics one loses or gains as an AAL ages. Given that the flavor profile of a "fresh" AAL tends to be rather subtle (bland and insipid some might say), I would expect any aging related changes to be fairly subtle as well.

    So I confess I can't see much harm in extending Hamms predicted shelf life. I doubt most of us could tell the difference between a 17 week old can of Hamms as opposed to a can that is 26 weeks old. Still likely to taste like a lightly flavored, insipid, bland, watery can of swill.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    A commonly discussed aspect for what happens when a pale lager (including AAL beers) ages is that it will develop an off-flavor of papery (or cardboard). This is due to development of a compound called trans-2-noneal (or T2N for short). Another aspect is increased sweetness which may be considered an off-flavor (or not).

    Below is a flavor ‘spider chart’ which illustrates the difference between a fresh lager and aged lager which may be helpful for you.

    Cheers!

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    https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/science-on-tap-the-science-of-beer-aging-styles.678793/
     
  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I appreciate the post Jack, but then my question would be at what point does the beer develop these additional "unpleasant" characteristics such that the average or typical AAL consumer can discern them? At a year of age (just picking a random date), I could absolutely see the flavor profile undergoing some fairly dramatic changes. But at 5 months? 6 months? I would assume the changes would still be pretty subtle. Do you have any experience at what point an AAL like Hamms reaches the aging point that you can readily discern that you're drinking an older beer?

    I'm curious, as I'm pretty sure that at 6 months of age I likely would be unable to tell the difference between a 6 month old can of Hamms and a 2 month old can. But that may simply be because I don't care for Hamms at any age.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I personally do not conduct quality control of AAL beers (tasting the same batch of beer over a period of many months) so needless to say I have no personal experience here.

    On a related note, in the past I would regularly correspond with Peter Wolfe who worked as a brewing scientist (Masters at Oregon State) for AB in St. Louis. Peter used to participate on BA. One of Peter's assigned tasks was to evaluate various materials for the plastic crown liners of bottle caps with the charter to come up with a 'better' bottle cap for AB bottles (e.g., Bud Light, Budweiser, etc.) to mitigate oxygen ingress across the cap liner barrier. Since this task was related to beer aging and associated sensory evaluation we would discuss this in a general manner. At that point in time AB used a best by duration of 110 days. Peter stated the genesis of this 110 days was the AB sensory evaluation team would evaluate given batches of beer (e.g., Bud Light, Budweiser, etc.) and a fresh out of the factory beer was assigned a metric of 10 and over months they would assign numbers to the beer as a basis of comparison. It was determined a priori that when the beer reached a metric of 7 that beer would be deemed to be at the beer's 'end of saleability' and over many batch evaluations it was determined that at 110 days the beers were at the metric of 7.

    A few points to further discuss of the above. How a beer is handled and stored will be impactful to the above exercise. As I understand it, the batches of beer at AB (St. Louis) were stored at room temperature throughout and since it was at the factory there was no mishandling (e.g., excessive vibration/jostling that could occur during transport). A bottle (or can) of Budweiser you purchased at your local retailer could 'behave' quite differently due to logistics issues.

    As to specifics of off-flavor development and when it specifically occurs over time, this was not part of our discussion.

    Cheers!
     
  12. DavetotheB

    DavetotheB Grand Pooh-Bah (4,241) Sep 30, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Appreciated a couple Hamms while grilling tonight. Got one can left in the fridge-gotta re-up on another 30 pack.

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  13. Argail

    Argail Pooh-Bah (2,367) Dec 19, 2019 Louisiana
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  14. DavetotheB

    DavetotheB Grand Pooh-Bah (4,241) Sep 30, 2017 Pennsylvania
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  15. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Great Pic . You also gave Surly a little free advertisment.
     
  16. TwilightBeerCareer

    TwilightBeerCareer Pooh-Bah (2,260) Feb 13, 2021 Illinois
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    Popeye didn't survive on spinach alone.
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  18. DavetotheB

    DavetotheB Grand Pooh-Bah (4,241) Sep 30, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Man overboard! The dog was appreciating this Hamms that I knocked off the grill. Salvaged about half the can but totally flat.

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  19. DavetotheB

    DavetotheB Grand Pooh-Bah (4,241) Sep 30, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Is this thread still a thing? Because Hamms is still a thing.

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  20. Blogjackets

    Blogjackets Grand Pooh-Bah (4,816) Nov 22, 2017 Ohio
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