Poll: Drinking alone at public drinking establishments

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Orca, Apr 15, 2024.

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How often do you drink alone at public drinking establishments?

  1. 0%–20%

    113 vote(s)
    41.2%
  2. 20%–40%

    52 vote(s)
    19.0%
  3. 40%–60%

    34 vote(s)
    12.4%
  4. 60%–80%

    41 vote(s)
    15.0%
  5. 80%–100%

    34 vote(s)
    12.4%
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  1. BeerGeekExtraordinaire

    BeerGeekExtraordinaire Zealot (542) Mar 6, 2020 Illinois
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    I am in Chicago. I moved up here in 2013 because my wife is from here. I haven't found a lot of friends here because of several factors. Plus, I am your basic introvert. I am ok being alone. Now that I am working from home most of the time,on Friday afternoons, I will go down to my basement and have a few, listening to music or whatever. Every now and then I get out and go to a favorite local brewery or two and sit at the bar. Usually I end up striking up a conversation with someone there and end up spending a pleasant afternoon. But if I don't, I am perfectly fine partaking of the beers I want by myself. But that's me
     
  2. ZAP

    ZAP Grand Pooh-Bah (4,048) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota
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    I have no problem drinking alone in public...if I have someone with me great...if not I enjoy some alone time with a pint or two...I don't need company always to enjoy a beer and don't care what the stigma is.....I drink a couple beers most nights after work by myself at home what is the difference in the public? Just how I view it...
     
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  3. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Did the bartender explain why this was necessary? If it were me, I would definitely have asked (only because I have an inquisitive nature).
     
  4. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    If you have a beer are you really alone?
     
  5. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    "A pint of plain is your only man"- Flann O'Brien
     
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  6. zeff80

    zeff80 Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,425) Feb 6, 2006 Missouri
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    Like others have said, I often drink alone because I'm stopping into a local brewery or bar to try something new (or something that's only on tap). Or on vacation, I'm having a quick flight at a brewery that I've never been to.

    In both cases, I'll sit on my phone or strike up conversations. I don't feel stigmatized, largely because I'm not the only person at the bar doing the same thing.
     
  7. rolltide8425

    rolltide8425 Pooh-Bah (2,470) Feb 18, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Certainly have done it more than a handful of times and never felt uncomfortable in any way about it. Sometimes I would strike up a conversation with the bartender or the person on the stool next to me sometimes I wouldn't. These days though, if I'm out drinking, it's almost always with my wife alongside.
     
  8. FLBeerGuy

    FLBeerGuy Grand Pooh-Bah (3,028) Feb 6, 2007 Florida
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    This describes me to a T
     
  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    It was pretty common for some taverns to not allow women at the bar - there was a famous lawsuit against McSorley's Ale House in the 1960s and some towns also had laws against it, as well - like Jersey City just across the river, which as late as 1973 had a local ordinance that read:
    Not that every bar obeyed. Some bar owners claimed it was aimed at preventing prostitution.

    Even back in the 1940s during the War, towns and bars ran into conflicts about such prohibitions, some of which were newly created. Rosie the Riveter wanted - and deserved - a beer after work just like every other worker. In NJ, the ABC commissioner noted that it was perfectly legal to serve women in bars since there was nothing in the state regulations on the topic, unless there was a local municipal regulation which prohibited serving women.

    Wasn't too long ago that lots of bars in older cities and towns still had 2 doors, the main one for the bar and a "Family entrance", often the signs still up.

    @moodenba - Were you on the mid-80s Reading PA bar tour? There was a bar (maybe called Stash's or Stanley's?) that was known to ask "Ladies" to drink in the back dining room only. The women on the tour happily disobeyed.:grin:

    Heck, even the early true diners sometimes advertised "Booths for Ladies" - but that was (I think?) more a factor that women in dresses didn't like to sit at the little round stools at the counter but it might have been otherwise...
     
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  10. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    I don't think I was on the tour that hit Reading, but I do have Suds and Dregs pamphlet that descrbes Stanley's. Some Canadian provinces had taverns that had two entrances, one for men and the other for women and couples. I went to a tavern in Chatham, ON, in the 80s that still had two rooms (not sure about enforcement then).
    About McSorley's: I was home laid up with back problems one weekday in about '86, watching the noon NYC news. That program had a live remote at McSorley's of the opening of the women's rest room there.
     
  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, when I went in the 70s, women were being served without incident, but they still only had the one bathroom.
     
  12. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Pooh-Bah (1,781) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island
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    In my 20s for whatever reason I felt uncomfortable drinking alone. Nowadays in my late 40s it's totally different. I welcome it to a certain extent. Usually if I'm meeting people out, I'll get to the brewery 20 minutes early and have the first drink alone. Allows me to really think about the beer I'm drinking and also to check e-mails/sports news as the phone goes away once the friends arrive.
     
  13. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    I'd say it's 50/50 for me. I drink the absolute majority of my beer at home, but the few times going out for beer it's been half alone, half teamed up.
     
  14. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,682) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    I like to pop by taprooms/breweries to try new offerings at least once every 2 weeks or so. On a good week, I might do this twice. Nice way to catch new offerings and add them to the DB.
     
  15. Mugman8

    Mugman8 Pundit (804) Sep 30, 2018 New York

    Rarely...maybe if I'm waiting for a plane or killing time before I meet someone and there's a game I want to watch. Sometimes would go to a pub when traveling for business. Drinking a beer should be a social thing. I do it with friends. My favorite is cooking out and having four or five couples over. They know I'm a 'beer guy' and will have some different beers to try. Often they bring over their favorites and we do an informal beer swap....
     
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  16. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I’m fine with visiting a brewery alone. Sometimes sit at the bar and strike up a conversation with bartender or someone sitting next to me. Being a remote worker, sometimes if my work schedule allows, I could visit a brewery in the afternoon while still working on my laptop lightly (same concept as working at a coffee shop), just for change of scenery from my home office and try a beer I haven’t had yet. Sometimes visit with my wife and sometimes with friends or out with couples. Definitely like to visit brewery alone while on business travel. I’m all over the map I suppose.
     
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  17. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I'm curious about this "stigma of drinking alone" to which people are referring. Is their a prevailing narrative that people who drink alone have an addiction to alcohol? Or is it that they don't have any friends? Both? Is it something else entirely? I get that someone who is alone, completely hammered, lip synching Aerosmith's "Dream On" into a bottle of beer with nine other empty bottles next to them might draw some judgement, but that's because of all the other details other than them being alone, no?

    I'm curious.
     
  18. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm so used to being around people when I drink that it feels strange to be in the rare situation of drinking alone. Yeah, I could stay home and drink alone (empty nester and the wife is out of town), but I enjoy supporting the local breweries and feel comfortable going there, sitting at the bar and chatting it up with the bartender or others. Usually a meal is involved too, and I don't feel like cooking at home.
     
  19. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I started the thread and was the first person to use that word, a concept that several people responded to, so I’ll try to explain a little more what I was thinking.

    First, I think historically there has been some kind of cultural idea (accurate or not) about the type of person who drinks alone—there’s a freaking song about it. You can look up the lyrics to understand the idea more clearly, but here’s the key refrain, which gets to the key sad/bluesy idea behind the song:

    Yeah my whole family done give up on me
    And it makes me feel oh so bad
    The only one who will hang out with me
    Is my dear old granddad
    And we drink alone, yeah
    With nobody else

    So yeah, not a great look.

    Then there’s the idea of just going out to a public drinking or dining establishment by yourself, whether to have a meal or a couple beers or what have you. I was clear in the OP that I wasn’t talking about doing this while traveling for work etc.—sometimes you find yourself in situations where you are alone and need sustenance. But to me it just feels a little weird/awkward to go get a table for one somewhere, if I’m in my own neighborhood and don’t have a specific reason why I’m not with friends/family. If it’s a restaurant and I need to be seated it almost feels like the host is looking for more people before I say it’s just me. Sometimes I really enjoy the solitude and the ability to choose where I go, how long I’m there, etc. but again, I’ve lived with other people almost continuously for my entire life—so going out, for food or beers or whatever, has always been an inherently social act.

    So I don’t know if this idea of a “stigma” is just an old-fashioned concept that I grew up with (or maybe I just made it up in my head based on observations)—people think nothing of spending entire days on end playing video games or binge-watching TV by themselves, if they happen to live alone, so maybe this is an outdated idea and I just haven’t kept up—but given that almost half of respondents to the poll put themselves in the 0%–20% bracket, it’s still more common to go out for drinks with other people than alone.
     
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  20. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I think with breweries whether it is awkward or not depends on a few factors:
    - Sitting at the bar anytime is fine/not awkward if alone
    - sitting at a table alone while working on a laptop is not awkward, you demonstrate you need the space, need to focus and need to be alone.

    -sitting at a table alone where there is no TV to watch, and you are left with nothing else to do but glacé around at other people can feel awkward and actually other groups of people may be judgemental about you as well (why is that guy alone and just looking around at people…he’s weird don’t let the children near him).

    so to avoid social awkwardness, best bet is to sit at the bar when alone
     
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