Adding Beer Conundrum

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  1. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    I was just entering a new beer and came to a conundrum.

    Label listed it as an IPA, but it was clearly a NEIPA in look and taste. Had I not looked at the label I would have said this is a hazy.

    So I ask the experts, when entering a new beer like this one, should I have labeled it NE Style IPA or IPA like the label says?

    I entered as label sayy.
     
    #1 MutuelsMark, May 11, 2024
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  2. not2quick

    not2quick Grand Pooh-Bah (3,600) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
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    I would enter it as the style the brewery states.
     
    #2 not2quick, May 11, 2024
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  3. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    When the label or brewer’s website makes a claim, I go with what they call it. Then let my review speak for itself.
     
    #3 SLeffler27, May 11, 2024
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If it looks likes duck, and quacks like a duck…

    I say NEIPA here.

    Cheers!
     
    #4 JackHorzempa, May 11, 2024
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  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    The brewer always sets the style....no exceptions (as much as you'd like to do it).
     
    #5 PapaGoose03, May 11, 2024
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  6. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Yeah, if the label doesn’t say “hazy” or “murky” or “New England” or “ugly,” enter it as an American IPA and then give it a shitty score.
     
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  7. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    My two cents: Tree House doesn't list their IPAs as New-England style, yet we clearly know what they're brewing. Same w/ Fidens.

    Out of curiosity, what is the beer?
     
    #7 TheIPAHunter, May 11, 2024
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  8. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Definitely go with what the label says
     
    #8 Beersnake, May 12, 2024
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  9. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    Finback Roundabout
     
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  10. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    If someone wanted to call that a session IPA, I'd let them have it. However, if you're going to classify that as an American IPA, I have some waterfront property in the middle of the Sahara. I'll give you a great deal, too.

    P.S. I am clearly in the minority here. I say leave it as is for now.
     
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  11. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    I had that conversation too! Should be a Session NEIPA
     
    #11 MutuelsMark, May 12, 2024
  12. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    A neipa is an ipa. It's just one of the substyles this site's database uses.

    For the purposes of this site it sounds like it would be best as a neipa, and that is still in alignment with the brewer's claim.

    Hell, Troon apparently labels all of their beers "hoppy ale" but you can see that they are neipa from a mile away
     
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  13. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    I listed it as an American IPA. I will let the moderators change it if they choose to. Just getting the feel for however else would handle it. I leaned more towards Session....
     
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  14. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,857) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    I'm with you on this one. Although I say that we generally defer to the brewery when it comes to style, in my world this is a consistent exception.
     
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  15. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    Great example w/ Troon. Cheers, sir.
     
    #15 TheIPAHunter, May 12, 2024
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  16. 57md

    57md Grand Pooh-Bah (3,033) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I add the beer as the style the brewer prefers. However, I then note my differing perspective in my review.
     
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  17. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    For all the people saying "add it add the style the brewer says!" I'd encourage you to check the style list.

    India Pale Ale (IPA) isn't a style option in the ba database. So you have to use your discretion on the appropriate sub style if the brewer only offers IPA
     
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  18. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
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    Another problem with Satan’s piss. Deciding if the chlamydia or 2.0 specific gravity is more flavorful. :nauseated_face:
     
    #18 micada, May 12, 2024
  19. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    The default is to use whatever the brewer provides we consumers and drop it into whatever style on BA makes the most sense. In this case, which I've seen before, if a brewer is calling their beer an IPA, but it's definitely an NEIPA, it should be added to NEIPA.
     
    #19 Todd, May 12, 2024
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  20. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Is "American ipa" the default assumption it a brewer just says "ipa"?
     
    #20 unlikelyspiderperson, May 12, 2024
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