Is Beer Less Interesting, or Am I?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by unlikelyspiderperson, May 13, 2024.

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  1. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    It will never get better than this folks.
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  2. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    If we ever reach the per Capita level of breweries that we had in 1887 we will have somewhere north of 11,000 breweries. Around 2,000 more that we have now.

    I doubt we'll reach that level. But it's worth noting
     
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  3. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Pooh-Bah (2,353) Mar 19, 2012 California
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    It would be interesting to understand what was defined as a brewery back in 1887. I doubt that the definition is close to what we would define today a brewery, but I guess that I should defer to BA who put the slide together. Probably more like a ton of home breweries back in 1887.
     
  4. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I'd imagine a stat like that is based on tax records. In which case many of them would have probably been located in a home/homestead context but would be commercial operations.

    The capacity for distribution today vs late 19th century is the biggest reason I doubt we'll ever get back to that same per Capita level. Demographic shifts that give us a much higher percentage of the population that doesn't come from historical beer consuming cultures is the next.
     
  5. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Maven (1,265) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico
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    I'd love to see what has happened since 2013. I feel like that may be a period of vast changes, with consolidation, brewery closures, and new ones popping up briefly and disappearing.
     
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  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    It's spiked and started to level off, every year it has gone up though
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  8. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Pooh-Bah (2,353) Mar 19, 2012 California
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    Interestingly, I got involved in craft beer from 85-95, started having kids from 1993-2006 (4), and got "involved" again in 2021 (both periods have seen major growth).

    I still get excited. Just bought a case earlier in the week of Stone Double Bastard (haven't had one in 5-6 years) and picked up two six packs yesterday of SN Hoptimum and Lagunitas Waldo's Special Ale. I still geeked up about the "release" or the "find". Three old time favorites in one week!
     
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  9. Amendm

    Amendm Pooh-Bah (2,601) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    I haven't hit all of the breweries in Rhode island yet and I have a big list of styles to try so, I view the scene as interesting. I can see why many long time members might disagree. Cheers.
     
  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    From the so-called Federal Revised Statutes (enacted 1874):
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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Not sure why the B.A. started that graph with 1887. Official sources put the previous high point for the number of brewers in the US at 4131 in 1873-1874.
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    [above]circa 1958 from The United States Brewers Foundation "A Century Record of Progress" (partial - up to Prohibition)
    [below] from The Yearbook of the United States Brewers' Association
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  12. VodkaPong87

    VodkaPong87 Pooh-Bah (2,060) Oct 9, 2020 Connecticut
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    Go on about adjuncted stouts again. I love that story!
     
  13. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    In the mid-1870s when the number of US brewers peaked, the largest US brewers - Siepp (Chicago), Best (pre-Pabst, Milwaukee), Bergner & Engel (Phila) and Ehret (NYC) - had yearly barrelages of 80-100 thousand barrels. So, they each accounted for around 0.8% - 1% of the 9.3 million barrels of beer brewed in the US.

    Today, the top 2 - AB and Molson Coors - roughly brew about 75% of the beer brewed in the US ("roughly" because both also import some beer). And another factor is imported beer (insignificant in the 1870s) today accounts for nearly 20% of all beer sold in the US.
     
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  14. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    You mean "sweet but not cloying" . :sunglasses:
     
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  15. Ipaupaweallpa

    Ipaupaweallpa Savant (1,022) Dec 26, 2014 Alabama
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    Does it bug anyone else how much these beer hugs are selling and they were nothing special? Also, how alot of beers that have made it to big box stores now have the abv magnified way bigger than it used to be. I noticed this with 90 min.

    It was cooler when it was more underground and wasn't as easy . Just like punk rock, and other things that have made it legal that aren't cool anymore.
     
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