Are Black IPAs still alive?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by DCH, Jun 18, 2024.

  1. DCH

    DCH Savant (1,119) Jun 12, 2013 New York

    Looking to see if anyone had any suggestions for Black IPAs that are still out there? It seems like this beer has been dying off for a while now, but still in some demand from people like me who love this style of beer.

    My stand-by used to be Lagunitas night time ale, which for me is impossible to find anymore. I really loved Allagash’s haunted house but that’s a seasonal fall beer. Stone’s self righteous has still not appeared by me.

    Is there anything that can satisfy the Black IPA craving? I’ve tried some imperial porters just because it’s the closest thing I can really think of.
     
  2. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    I miss them, too, and I also remember Night Time fondly. I see the style occasionally, had one the other day in Denver from Woods Boss. Isn't Stone's Sublimely Self Righteous out again? Or maybe that time has already passed. I remember liking that one, too.

    I wouldn't say it's extinct, but it's on the endangered list.

    Most recent ones I've had before the Woods Boss one last weekend:
    Land Grant - Totality (March 30).
    Brewery X - Creeping Death (March 28).
     
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  3. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    I miss them, too. Only time I see them they're one-offs from local breweries.
     
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  4. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    Like others, I see them at some local breweries. I love them and hope their popularity will cause an uptick in their production.
     
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  5. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,857) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    I thought Firestone's Wookey Jack made a comeback? At least on a rotational/seasonal basis.
     
  6. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    It has I think too, however it is tough to get for us non-California peeps :slight_frown:
     
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  7. DCH

    DCH Savant (1,119) Jun 12, 2013 New York

    I really hope that it did/would!
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It would seem that Black IPA is now a rotating/local beer style.

    Von C Brewing is local to me and they now have a Black IPA on tap and that beer is very tasty!

    “Starless Sky IPA - Black

    6.8% ABV Norristown, PA

    This black ipa was built on a base of 2 row, Munich, medium crystal, and midnight wheat malts then hopped with talus, loral, simcoe, and vista hops. Notes of bakers chocolate, coconut, oak, and grapefruit.”

    Get ‘em while you can!:beers:

    Cheers!
     
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  9. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Agree with everyone else, mostly see Black IPAs from local breweries and not even much of it packaged (draft only usually at the brewery).

    It is an endangered style for sure and done well is amazing but a non-optimal hop + roast pairing is not nearly as appealing.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Good observation. If brewers select hop varieties that 'clash' with roasty malts this could be an issue.

    In the past I much preferred the Black IPAs that were produced using dark malts that had no or little roast character (e.g., dehusked Carafa malts).

    Cheers!
     
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  11. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    Unfortunately, Stone Sublimely Self Righteous hasn't show up reasonably close to me. At this point, I fear it means that ship has sailed. **sigh**
     
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  12. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    There’s a few styles I will order, no questions asked, in part to show support for brewing innovation. Gruits, rauchbeers, and black IPAs are tops on this list.
     
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  13. retention_

    retention_ Devotee (313) Jan 8, 2022 North Carolina

    I see more black IPAs since Stone brought SSR back. The previous 3-5 years they were virtually extinct around here.
     
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  14. brettanomyces420

    brettanomyces420 Crusader (429) Nov 30, 2023 Massachusetts
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    I'll almost always grab a black IPA when I see one on a brewery's menu. I had a really good, and strikingly modern, one at Magnetic North Brewing in Anchorage, AK. "Dark Night BIPA" was brewed with Strata, and that hop's classic strawberry note kept the whole thing easy drinking and fresh. When that style goes wrong, the combined bitter of the roast and the hops can be a nightmare, but this one was a nice combination of fruit and roast.
     
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  15. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    It's regularly brewed and available at the Firestone Walker Propagator in my are, but they also can is seasonally and gets some distribution
     
  16. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Sadly, yes. They keep popping up like mushrooms.
     
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  17. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Gruit beer and Rauchbier are regression, not innovation. :slight_smile:
     
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  18. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Been drinking one at a local brewery. Also enjoyed two 6 packs of Stones SSR rerelease.

    Definitely a rare style
     
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  19. Amendm

    Amendm Pooh-Bah (2,589) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    Lawson's and Lord Hobo's BIPAs are the only ones I see around from "big" breweries, local breweries have them occasionally and they're a crap-shoot.

    Another style barely hanging on. Cheers.
     
  20. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    That Lawson's one is amazing! I haven't seen it in quite a while, unfortunately.
     
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