Beer & Your Health

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BigIronH, Jun 24, 2024.

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  1. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    After slipping into a bit of a slump this past year and letting the alcohol and poor eating habits take a bit too much control of my life, I was faced with a wakeup call this past week. Abdominal pain that sent me to a doctor and ultimately a blood test which turned up moderately increased liver enzymes. I have since cut out all alcohol and bad food (7 days) and am anticipating a liver ultrasound and a redraw on enzyme levels in the next month. Have any other BA's been faced with this kind of thing? Cheers and take care of yourselves.
     
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  2. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Age and metabolism always come into play with these things.

    I’m 40 year old, my blood test I do each year turns out great and I drink on average one or two beer a day. Eating habits aren’t very healthy either as I dig cheese, charcuterie and meats.

    Maybe I’ll have the same wake up call someday but fortunately so far so good.

    Off-topic but if we are going to talk health. I’m still a vaper but I’ve given up my chain smoker habit for over five years.
     
  3. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    It's good to know you're doing well sir. Cheers.
     
  4. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Yes. This process will leave you baffled at how much the medical industry charges for knowing next to nothing about the human body. It will also make you wonder what the medical studies in 100 years will have shown from the 2010s in regards to health effects of excessively hopped (and with boutique designed strains of hops) beers and loading pastry stouts up like a bottle of chocolate sauce.

    Hope your results are good.
     
  5. rugene

    rugene Pundit (967) Mar 2, 2015 Canada (QC)

    5 years ago I had a blood test that made me worry because my blood sugar level was on the limit of diabetes. I only drink moderately on weekends, but I was drinking beers of high alcohol volume. (8%) Since then I cut down on this and had better results in my blood test. I don't know how people can drink every day without any serious effect on their health.
     
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  6. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    At this point my understanding is that everyone's body works differently. I work construction which comes naturally working alongside alot of long term alcoholics. I had the discussion with my wife about several guys I know in their 50s who drink a minimum of a fifth of hard liquor a day with seemingly no health issues. Oftentimes beginning in the early morning. I couldn't have predicted that my relatively light alcohol consumption (compared to the above mentioned) would have caught up with me that fast.
     
  7. rugene

    rugene Pundit (967) Mar 2, 2015 Canada (QC)

    Yes, my brother is a long-time alcoholic and he never goes to the doctor. And when I go they discover something, but I have to say that he has secondary effects that I don't have.
     
  8. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    My ALT numbers were elevated several years ago and I was diagnosed with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. I went through the ultrasound (I still remember how goddamn quiet the technician was through the whole process, which made me nervous) and was basically given guidance to eat less/healthier and reduce or stop alcohol consumption. No magic bullets, just be more conscious of my habits. After I got my shit together (I never totally stoped drinking beer but I did cut back) I lost a bunch of weight and my ALT numbers dropped surprisingly quickly. Of course some of that weight has crept back—I blame COVID—and as of my last blood test almost a year ago my numbers were as low as any point in the last 10 years. So the way I look at it is, I now know to watch this and to be more careful about what I’m consuming, but I also don’t let it freak me out. Thankfully for me it was pretty easy to get things under control.
     
  9. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,171) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    I found out that I have hereditary Hemochromatosis (iron overload disease) a few months back. It causes ferritin to build up excessively in your liver and can lead to all kinds of problems including cirrhosis.

    After a couple of blood draws, my numbers dropped down into the normal range and I started drinking again. I have been avoiding beef, beans, enriched bread, etc. due to the high iron content in those foods.

    Stay healthy everyone!
     
  10. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Yes I am quite freaked out for the imaging portion. Hoping and praying it's as simple as your story. I can easily get on the straight and narrow and do what my body needs me to do but the thought of going the rest of my life without a beer or a burger is kind of bumming me out. Cheers bro, glad you recovered.
     
  11. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Glad you recovered brother. Cheers.
     
  12. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I’ve heard that NA beers can be helpful to folks who are cutting back. Beer drinking can become ritualized very easily and the NA beer can sometimes be a good substitute in the ritual. You may wish to explore some. There seems to be many NA options these days.

    Side note, and this is not directed at the OP, but it’s worth mentioning once more: I really wish BA had a sub forum for people who are cutting back on alcohol, attempting to abstain for a period of time, questioning whether they have an addiction, and/or seeking treatment.

    As I’ve said before, the fact that we are a community makes member-to-member recommendations all the more meaningful and likely to be absorbed by the person seeking the information. The right person, with the right advice, at the right time, can make a difference when it comes to addiction.
     
  13. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Everybody has different issues. Typically, an alcohol intake the equivalent of about two, possibly three 5%, 12 oz. beers a day for a midsized adult isn't too detrimental. . Back in the 70s, a six percent beer was pretty strong, and a lot of AALs were about 4.5%. But it was still possible to overdo it. Nowadays you could easily blow through the recommendations if you're drinking quantities of imperial IPA. I like the option of having two or three, so I lean toward moderate alcohol.
     
  14. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Something like 20% of Americans have NAFLD, or whatever it’s called now. Which is not to say it shouldn’t be taken seriously—but I guess I’d rather have that kind of wake-up call than a heart attack or stroke. Again, I was pretty shocked how quickly those numbers came down after I just lost a few pounds. I can’t and wouldn’t give someone else medical advice, but in my case it turned out to be a lot less scary than I’d originally feared.
     
  15. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    The problem with this is they aren’t necessarily better for you. They contain a lot of sugar to make up the flavor. If this is a fatty liver issue, switching to N/A isn’t going to solve the issue as the excess sugar is still going to tax the liver.

    This also sounds like more of a diet issue as OP said he was eating poorly as well. Everything balanced and in moderation helps.
     
  16. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    I think this is a great recommendation. I would certainly participate.
     
  17. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    N/A and reduced alcohol beers don't contain "sugar" in the sense used for health impact (look at the analyses). Dietary sugars are the simple sugars that are easily digested, and can immediately spike blood sugar. All beer contains complex sugars that generally are more slowly digested, and have a less intense blood sugar influence. These complex sugars are indirectly indicated by the calorie count. You can roughly estimate the complex sugar load by subtracting the calories due to alcohol from the total calories.
     
  18. MutuelsMark

    MutuelsMark Grand Pooh-Bah (5,787) Jan 23, 2015 Kentucky
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    I would think drinking moderation is the key.
     
  19. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    ...geez, Harley, tough times...I'll basically echo @MutuelsMark's advice or suggest you follow @cavedave's example (pretty much eliminate all but a beer or two every so often)...plenty of examples of people who have lived long and fruitful lives while boozing like crazy to others who bit the dust too early...

    ...personally, over the years, I have cut back on my alcohol consumption (still high per the 'experts'), but have no problem saying 'no' when it's not appropriate or getting close to bed time, do a better job of eating healthier and (at age 67) not eating as much (kind of an intermittent fasting concept, but not any hardcore practice or schedule with that stuff), and do watch my weight (I generally weigh less than I do when I retired from the USAF 20 years ago)...

    ...what it boils down to (in my opinion) is finding that balance point between how you feel and want to live your life and what your paid medical professionals recommend you do...doctors can be wrong, you could be wrong, so there's no easy answer to things...cutting back on alcohol (or taking a longer sabbatical from beer, et al - ala a 'Dry January' thing) may be in order...and, damn it, eat more vegetables...
     
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  20. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    I've mentioned this once , but was shut down

    I mentioned there should be numbers for Alcoholism Centers/Support Websites etc. etc. the way Gambling websites have info for folks needing help .

    Was told this is a website about DRINKING MORE BEER
     
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