Forum Updates (November 2024)

Blog Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Nov 15, 2024.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Based on recent user feedback, general forum usage, and whatnot, I've applied the following adjustments to the forums structure and layout of the main page by reverting some past changes and improving upon that a bit.

    Beer Talk & The Bar
    The Bar experiment is over. I think there's a better way of achieving what it intended to do by playing off of some of the ideas in this recent feedback thread and back when it was first introduced.
    • All threads that were in The Bar, expect for locked What beer are you drinking now? (WBAYDN) threads, will be moved back into Beer Talk.
    • The Bar subforum will be renamed to "WBAYDN (Archive)." Its purpose will be to clean up these locked daily threads that once dominated up Beer Talk and make other threads more discoverable.
    • "Threads from The Bar" on the homepage will be removed and the number of threads under "Join the Discussion!" will be increased.
    One less forum for most people to check, and Beer Talk will be less flooded by locked daily/weekly threads.

    Regional
    We now have three regional categories and all forums contained within them will be main forums (again) vs. subforms:
    • Regional (North America), which contains: Canada, Mexico, and all United States regional forums, plus North America (Other) to cover everything else / topics that span multiple regions within North America
    • Regional (Europe), which contains: Belgium, British Isles, France, German, Netherlands, and Nordics, plus Europe (Other) to cover everything else / topics that span multiple regions within Europe
    • Regional (Other), which contains: Australia (formerly Oceania + the Australia subforum), Africa, Asia, and South America (formerly Latin America)
    This gives us the flexibility to add more regional categories and forums as needed, and makes the regional forums (and their last activity info) once again easier to access.

    Grid Layout
    The grid layout for desktop and other devices with wider displays is back, which helps condense things a bit and just looks cleaner. On smaller devices the list of forums is similar to before, but accessing the regional forums is much easier now.

    Protips
    • Watch forums that you're interested in. You'll see the option right above the list of threads, and you can mange your watched forums as needed. Not only can you select to get alerts, but threads for the forums you watch will show up on the homepage when you're logged in.
    • Under Forums subnav you'll find New Posts, which is a great way to catch up.
    That's it for now, and thanks again for the feedback! :beers::heavymetal:
     
  2. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    I banged this out a lot quicker than I expected. Still making some adjustments, but the core updates have been completed.

    Issues? Feedback? Let me know, but I'm about to grab a beer...so, brb.
     
  3. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Returning to the grid layout takes a moment to adjust.

    Going to see what it looks like after a few beers.
     
  4. muchloveforhops3

    muchloveforhops3 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,999) Apr 5, 2009 Montana
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    I'm digging the updates, @Todd! Appreciate all your efforts and willingness to make adjustments based on our feedback :beers:
     
  5. HoppingMadMonk

    HoppingMadMonk Grand Pooh-Bah (5,208) Mar 3, 2017 New Jersey
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    Like all the girls in a bar at one in the morning after a few beers,doesn't everything look great?!
     
  6. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Regarding "Beer Talk (Archived)" - looking at it from the user side, the label isn't totally intuitive with the site organization in mind for two reasons.

    Something called "Beer Talk (Archived)" should be an archive for all Beer Talk threads rather than just the the drinking threads. BTW - You might have a missing text issue in the forum description. I see: "Archive for some of the reoccurring threads in ."

    Having "Beer Talk (Archived)" as a sub-forum of Beer Talk and the link to it being the first content you see on the Beer Talk page also feels likes like a misplacement... particularly since users can't post there and there is a separate folder for archived content at the bottom of the forums page.

    I think archives should be in "archives" and current/active Beer Talk threads should be given vertical priority on the Beer Talk page, but I get how some people like to read locked WBAYDN threads the following day and whatnot.

    If you want to cater to such readers though, the old "Bar" aggregation might make more sense. Maybe giving a locked thread a day or two (or three) to sit in the regular forum before moving it to "archived" is a compromise. Applying things to the bigger picture - In my case I know I wouldn't want political threads (for example) to disappear from their forum once they get locked. If that happened I would assume they were deleted.
     
  7. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    @zid: It's temporary. Haven't moved it yet either. Still kind of thinking about it to be honest. Might just make it a WBAYDN archive and name it accordingly.

    But I'll definitely ponder your feedback...after I have another beer. :beers:
     
  8. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Yeah. Going with this. Adjusting now...and then going back to my beer. Thanks for the nudge, @zid.
     
  9. Jesseix

    Jesseix Pundit (913) Mar 18, 2022 California

    It'll definitely look better the more beers you're into :sunglasses:
     
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  10. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,171) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    In my opinion, this is a much, MUCH better format. Thanks for making these great improvements Todd!
     
  11. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    I didnt have a real strong opinion either way for forum layout and locations. BUT now that its this way again, I do find this preferable for layout , appearance and use.
    Thank you for the enhancements @Todd !
     
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  12. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    Thanks, this should clarify that "Beer Talk" is about a lot of things and not just WBAYDN. Will be interesting to see if there are more posts in the less -popular threads now.
     
  13. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    First morning with new flow: Locked WBAYDN and moved it into the WBAYDN (Archive). I dig it and it's easy for those who like to go back in time to do so.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/forums/wbaydn-archive.68/

    Going forward I'll wait to move the locked thread until the new one is created, which will make it easier for people to number (#XXXX) the thread properly. I've also set the default sort order of the archive forum to thread start date (descending).
     
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  14. Blogjackets

    Blogjackets Grand Pooh-Bah (4,816) Nov 22, 2017 Ohio
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    I like to read through WBAYDN posts when I miss a day or two. I see that you can no longer like past posts. I’d prefer to be able to like posts in closed daily threads.

     
  15. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Likes should be enabled now.
     
  16. BeerVikingSailor

    BeerVikingSailor Grand Pooh-Bah (3,667) Nov 19, 2009 Ohio
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    Looking good! Thanks for the updates, @Todd !
     
  17. thebeers

    thebeers Grand Pooh-Bah (5,837) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Yet another decision I’ve disagreed with the majority on this month. C’est la vie.
     
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  18. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Update: Partially reverted some of these updates to do some testing. Specifically the default forum node view (flat vs. grid on desktop) and nesting regional forums.
     
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