Barleywine Appreciation Thread (2025)

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  1. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Single Barrel Enigma from Cartel Brewing in Lancaster, PA. An English barleywine aged for 20 months in a rye whisky barrel. One of 300 bottles! 14.7% ABV. A HUGE thanks to Dan (@DIM ) for sending this one to me!

    Poured at fridge temp but I let it warm up for about 15 minutes before trying. It pours a murky brown with minimal head. The nose is surprisingly subtle for a beer of this strength. Getting hints of toffee, brown sugar, and prunes. Not much barrel at this point.

    The taste is wonderful. The rye barrel really punches here. Nice spice. Also getting notes of toffee, leather, oak, vanilla, brown sugar, plums, jam, and a touch of honey. It's tough to explain, but this is just so smooth. I wouldn't say it's sweet, and I wouldn't say it's bitter. It's right in the middle, and all of the flavors take their place and don't fight. Love it.

    The mouthfeel is medium bodied and the aftertaste is salted toffee and whiskey. Thanks, Dan!!!

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  2. Errto

    Errto Zealot (737) Oct 20, 2009 Connecticut

    I don't drink barleywines as often as I used to. Part of it may be changes in taste and metabolism, and part of it is definitely that they're not as easy to find nowadays (I've posted about that elsewhere). But part of it is that barleywines, to me, call for a certain kind of night. Cold outside, quiet at home, nothing to do but sit, relax and contemplate a bit. Well, my life is bananas so those nights are very rare for me but this happens to be one.

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    JW Lees Harvest Ale, 1986 Yeast Edition (not sure what that means exactly but I'm going with it). Bottled 2021 it looks like. Noticeably sweet but not syrupy or headache-inducing. Carbonated just enough. Full of those warming flavors that take me back to an earlier era. Delicious. Cheers!
     
  3. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Nice! Apparently they kept the yeast strain going from the first ever bottling of this beer (1986) and they used it for this beer. I thought it was amazing.
     
  4. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Old Numbskull from Alesmith. A classic to me. I'm not sure what the bottling date is, but I bought this from the brewery in 2022. This is so freaking good. Mix of caramel and bitter hops. Lovely beer.

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  5. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I don’t struggle with drinking. I struggle with waiting. That 4 pack was quickly finished. :grimacing:

    Here’s a pic from the bottle because I don’t think you’ll find much about it online. Whether a drinker would find it to be more “American” in tone is another story, but I usually think that there needs to be a very strong reason to classify something different from how it’s sold. I appreciate any work put into the database.

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  6. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    Fort George Brewery + Public House -- Etymology
    A select blend of English, American & red barleywine ale aged 12-20 months in Westward Whiskey & Russel Rye barrels
    ABV: 13%; pouring temperature: 36.1 ℉; bottling info: 2024
    Source: local purchase

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    4.32/5 rDev -2%
    look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

    Pours a murky brown tone, brown and cloudy in the glass; decent head although a bit thin, khaki colored; sticky rings of foam inside the glass. Rich, chocolaty nose; deep malt sweetness; dry barrel wood. Exquisite flavor; rich milk chocolate and toffee cut with a nice whiskey edge; hint of rye spiciness. Heavy, sticky mouthfeel; round and smooth on the palate.

    Gawd, what a pleasure to drink on a cold, snowy Saturday late morning. The appearance may be somewhat mundane and the smell a tad muted due to the cold pouring temperature, but everything comes together nicely with the taste and mouthfeel. This is an outstanding beer overall

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    ...I bypassed doing the Barleywine / Stout BIF #2 because I need to cull the beer herd such as beers like this...I love big beers, so I'm torn with my decision, yet I find solace with wonderful barleywines like this...
     
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  7. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Had a Studly Big Unit barleywine a little while ago
     
  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I’m sorry @Beersnake . I wrote the above poorly. What I meant:
    It’s my opinion that there needs to be an extremely clear and strong reason if a beer is going to be classified on BA as a style that’s different from how the beer is labeled. Shades of gray shouldn’t be a factor.

    BTW, I’m not suggesting that the above has anything to do with how the beer was classified. I have a vague memory that this is probably a case of a brewer changing their messaging over time (and perhaps the beer - ?).
     
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  9. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Celebrating the fact that we finally finished refurbishing our basement! We surprised our kids this morning with air hockey, foosball, and ping-pong. They had no idea any of them were coming!

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    Having triple barrel Deal With the Devil batch 17, aged 32 months in bourbon, cognac, and bourbon barrels.

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    I was curious about this one because of the cognac barrels, harkening back to the original ADWTD. I get more oak and vanilla than in the others I've tried. I'm pleasantly surprised by how prominently the cognac barreling comes across! The familiar boozy caramel and abundant bourbon are certainly noticeable but damned if cognac doesn't steal the show. I'm loving the marshmallow fluff note I sometimes get from grape booze barrels. And oh my the potent fermented grape juice flavors are amazing. Plenty of legs on the glass but this isn't quite as thick and sticky as others in this series. Overall this is an all-timer for me, absolutely loving this one.
     
  10. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Oh man, that basement looks freaking awesome! Congrats on the completion, Dan! The camera angle must be off as I'm not seeing the beer fridge that you must have added...

    Oh, and the beer sounds pretty great too :wink:
     
  11. VodkaPong87

    VodkaPong87 Pooh-Bah (2,060) Oct 9, 2020 Connecticut
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    I return here with this monstrosity:

    Tree House - Double Barrel Tree of Light

    Tree of Light OG was and is in my top 2 all time barleywines (VSOJ being the other). This is definitely in the same realm with its liquid sticky toffee pudding flavor profile.
    It actually reminds me a little bit of Fremonts Batch 6000, but somehow much thicker. My only complaint for this is the thickness. It’s legitimately the same consistency as real maple syrup. Kind of hoping that drops out a little with some age. Says it can be cellared up to 10 years and I wouldn’t doubt that. $22, which is a lot, but some place like Side Project would charge $50 for something of this status

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  12. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Old Guardian (new version)! Thanks to Dan (@DIM ) for sending!

    The nose is wonderful - caramel, wheat, slight hops, honey, pear, and pine.

    The taste is fantastic. Can't say it's exactly as I remember fresh OG to be like, as it has been a while and my palate has evolved. Regardless, this is great, with layers of citrus peel bitterness, pine needles, oak, toffee, leather, and a slight fruity note (apples, pears). Really enjoyable!

    The aftertaste is bitter citrus peel all the way.

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  13. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks Tim! The kitchen/bar area in the background has always had my bursting at the seems DBF and overflowing cellar collection:flushed:
     
  14. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Nice!
     
  15. Spade

    Spade Pooh-Bah (2,568) Mar 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Having a St. Seditious from 2SP.

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    This has become a favorite.
     
  16. Blogjackets

    Blogjackets Grand Pooh-Bah (4,816) Nov 22, 2017 Ohio
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    A big old strong ale from Revolution - Dread & Breakfast. Cheers.

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  17. Mdog

    Mdog Pooh-Bah (2,539) Jan 7, 2004 Minnesota
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    Steel Toe Before the Dawn Black Barleywine
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    Had this again for the first time in years last night, still excellent stuff.
    Lots of barrel in the nose, lots of chocolate, vanilla, graham crackers, and booze. They call it a black barleywine, it is very imperial stout-like.
     
  18. Blogjackets

    Blogjackets Grand Pooh-Bah (4,816) Nov 22, 2017 Ohio
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    Weekend cuvée of peaberry coffee and Dread & Breakfast strong ale by Revolution. Delicious! Cheers.

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  19. CarolinaCardinals

    CarolinaCardinals Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,231) Jun 11, 2003 North Carolina
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    The basement looks fantastic Dan, congratulations to the Fam and you on a job well done. ADWTD is a great celebratory brew!
    Cheers!
    Tom
     
  20. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    This held up incredibly well and has opened up even more over the past hour. Lots of toasted toffee and caramel, a hint of dark fruit, molasses, Bourbon, and oak while ending on the sweeter side with pronounced warming in the back of the pie hole. So incredibly well blended with layers of goodness/complexity, one of my all-time favorite English 'Barleys. (!!:yum:!!)

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