Lame-o BevMo!

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by gamepete, Feb 8, 2025.

  1. Bluerabbitbell

    Bluerabbitbell Pooh-Bah (2,378) Nov 1, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Or walked to Fathead's salon in Pittsburgh and left their wallet in the car and couldn't get a beer ...
     
  2. Vitacca

    Vitacca Pooh-Bah (2,250) Sep 15, 2010 Montana
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    Try working in Anchorage. Everyone needs to show ID in the liquor store even if you’re only buying a Coke. I only made it three days in that shitty Brown Jug store.
     
  3. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,171) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    The Brown Jug kicks ass in Fairbanks. Usually no one gets carded. Seniors get discounts. Fred Meyer and Wal-Mart are the bitches.
     
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  4. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    That would be Dollar Tree, aka Dollar-and-a-quarter Tree. They don't sell alcohol yet AFAIK, but I wouldn't be surprised if they move in that direction. Some Family Dollar stores do, and they are owned by Dollar Tree. Dollar Tree Plus stores offer a selection of $3 and $5 items in addition to the $1.25 items, so they would be a natural fit for cheap beer and wine.

    Ain't you glad you asked? :wink:
     
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  5. pinyin

    pinyin Savant (1,119) Sep 19, 2013 New York

    Wegman’s in NJ and PA actually require an ID barcode to be scanned for the POS software to give access to the payment processing portion of the transaction. This is built into their POS systems, I would assume by their corporate legal policy. It protects the company from unnecessary fines, court dates, legal infractions.
     
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  6. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Wait, I thought Alaska didn't have rules. The "Last Frontier" and "Freedom", and whatnot.
     
  7. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I think the mandatory carding is to reduce the amount of wildlife attempting to buy beer.
     
  8. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Meh, I’m 55 and get carded regularly. The person behind the register is just doing his/her job. Don’t take it personally. The world is stupid.
     
  9. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Oregon issued Liquor Licenses in the 60s. (since the Drivers License didn't have a photo.) Required at Liquor stores and preferred at bars and beer/wine outlets. Liquor stores recorded unique inventory numbers along with buyer ID no. in order to trace items found with minors to the original purchaser. Enforcement was pretty strict. The newspaper had a monthly list of maybe 20 or more Portland area business alcohol sales license suspensions for sale of packages (mostly convenience stores) or serving (usually taverns).
     
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  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    The OLCC is every bit as nasty today. They routinely send in underage agents during particularly busy times to try to trip up bar staff. They nailed Belmont Station recently. BS tends to card pretty much everyone, but on this day the "customer" looked familiar to the bartender and said his table had a tab going. It was crazy busy and she bought his story. My understanding is that they got popped with a sizeable fine and a warning (which would turn into a suspension if it happened again).
     
  11. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Massachusetts had a “Liquor ID” when I moved there in the 1990s.

    The first couple of weeks (not having a photo I.D. and my Minnesota photo I.D. cards being -mostly- insufficient to score Meister Brau and Carling Black Label 40 ouncers) were tough.

    Buying “local” brands (Golden Anniversary and Stegmaier returnables) wasn’t a problem as I wasn’t carded for those!

    (I’m in my mid-Fifties now, and am almost never carded for beer. THC crap on the other hand… )
     
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  12. BruChef

    BruChef Maven (1,277) Nov 8, 2009 New York
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    Not about to get my hair did at a place where the flagship is Head Hunter.
     
  13. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    puhh. Total Wines in San Francisco won't let you in the store's front door without showing I.D.

    it's like a nightclub with no DJ or music that opens at 9AM with bouncers that have guns. i guess the bright spot is you don't have to worry about showing identification at the register since you've already been roused & just shy of frisked to get in the joint.
     
  14. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    This. Rarely get carded, many times I’m also rarely asked to provide a CC to start a tab where younger folks are asked. I guess I look like I won’t walk out on a tab. I’m fine showing an ID (I’m 55) but you’re not scanning the back, in part because I want to avoid the inevitable data breach letter for buying a four pack three years ago.

    Many places try to scan licenses in Nevada, even Circa to walk into their casino. I've acquiesced three times ever in social situations, but after having time to think through the issue, I’m not allowing future scans of my ID. The Nevada law is to require scans for weed sales, and tobacco sales to people under 40. There are no scanning requirements related to alcohol sales, but some larger corporations will ask for any sale with age requirements.
     
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  15. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    To add on to this, at many places, they have some sort of disclaimer along the lines of: "If you are under 35, we will ask to see your ID."

    The problem is ... how the hell do they know you're under that age without asking for your ID?

    Those cases are all based entirely on how young or old you look. According to those signs, I'd be well within my rights to tell them: "F' off; I'm not required to show you my ID, because I'm over 35." (Pick your age; sometimes it's 25, or 40, or whatever.) But obviously, I would not do that, nor would they honor it.

    So the way out of that ridiculous scenario is to ask everyone for their ID, which many places do. It's a way off of that slippery slope.

    Is it annoying when you're clearly of age? Fuck, man, my career has been old enough to drink for years, much less me as a person. But yeah, you can't just draw a line where it's OK: if this person looks 50, you don't need to ask for ID, because people will always fall on both sides of that arbitrary line, and you're going to be IDing people who are well, well over the legal drinking age regardless. May as well ID everyone.
     
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  16. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Related, I took my son in with me the other day to pick up some SoS. The cashier asked, "Is he of age?" And I said, "No, he's not. He's my son." Good to go; no further questions!

    Why ask at all, then?

    Second person purchase concerns are stupid as hell. I can take my 11 year old anywhere, and no one will ask any questions, but my teenage son ... now they're concerned? Spoilers: if I want to give him alcohol, I'm going to. I'm not going to make him wait in the car while I buy beer for me, and you're not following me home to see if I'm getting him drunk. And as soon as I simply state that we're related, it's totally OK again? I could have just been lying! (I wasn't.)

    CT has always been stupid about that. 20 some odd years ago, I had a roommate who was under 21. Applebee's wouldn't sit us at the high tops, as those are in a 21+ area. Yet, there are plenty of families in those areas with kids who are clearly under 21. So it can't be a lawful requirement, where someone under 21 is absolutely banned from the area (such as being seated at the actual bar). It's a policy, and as such, sporadically enforced.

    But when you're asking a 60 year old for ID at a package store, it's all about convenience for the workers. The more you can standardize it, the easier it is for the employees, and as a bonus, you can set clear expectations for your customer base. If I expect to be carded, I'm not going to get annoyed at it: they card everyone, and they carded me, and I'm part of everyone.

    When it's inconsistently enforced (like in my anecdote), then it's pretty reasonable to get annoyed.
     
  17. wmeckley44

    wmeckley44 Savant (1,114) Nov 1, 2023 Tennessee
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    TN requires everyone to get carded everywhere. The only place I don't is the one brewery I'm at usually once or twice a month, probably since I look different than most of the usual customers.

    In PA I almost never get carded which is insane. If I don't shave, I look about 30 according to most people, and if I do, I look 17.
     
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  18. NorsemanOne

    NorsemanOne Pooh-Bah (2,331) Sep 17, 2021 Utah
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    Man you all would love it here in my home State :grin: Every alcohol purchase, liq store, restaurant, bar, club, everything. ID scan and I mean scan, not just a glance.
     
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  19. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Wow. Folks are being carded way more frequently than I would expect. I can't remember the last time I was carded. I'm 42 now. Probably haven't been carded in 10+ years. Anyone else think it's weird that so many folks well north of age 21 are getting carded? Maybe this is more common at big chain stores and, being in RI, where grocery stores can't sell alcohol, small mom and pop stores dominate the beer sales. While I'm sure there are some aggressive carding rules at a few of these mom and pops, I wager it's far less prevalent than at the big chains. I dunno. All I know is I haven't been carded in a minute and, if I were, I'd probably be annoyed. Then again, if I were carded everywhere, then I'd expect it and it'd likely be come an accepted part of the experience.
     
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  20. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Haven’t returned to Utah since they passed the 2022 law. They have always had above and beyond laws in terms of ABV and other restrictions.

    The scan is required for persons who appear under 36.

    https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title32B/Chapter1/32B-1-S407.html

    Turns out I broke a different law every trip to their national and state parks, as it is illegal to transport beer into the state with the exceptions of a duty free foreign liter or less, or when relocating your personal residence into Utah. In order to comply with the latter exemption, you must obtain permission, purchase state alcohol stamps for your own liquor, and pay a “reasonable administrative handling fee”.

    https://sbi.utah.gov/alcohol-enforcement-team/frequently-asked-questions/

    Per this website, Pennsylvania and Utah are the lone two states with scanning laws related to alcohol purchases or entry (Utah), with several more states requiring scans for weed and or tobacco. Of course few states (thank you NH for banning this shit) regulate what these businesses do with your data, including storage, selling it, deletion, data protection, etc. Don’t agree with requiring these scans without proper consumer/citizen protections.

    https://ftxidentity.com/blog/id-scanning-laws/
     
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