BFD…how hard can it be to pull out your ID? If they don’t treat everyone the same the lawyers scream discrimination.
I have realized that in a lot of places the carding has nothing to do with age, it's a legal way to keep the more addled citizens, street campers, and light fingers out of the store.
I get carded about half the time (at the vendors without scanners anyway) when buying.as a 31 year old in PA. People routinely remark how I look much younger than I really am...it seems to run in the family as my mom also looked really young for her age for a long time, and it's only just now starting to catch up to her at 55.
If you really want to talk about a hassle, the service agreement for credit cards requires vendors to ID anyone that hasn't signed the back of the card (which few people do anymore). Working in one of the few establishments that enforces this is a headache. I once had to say to a former mayor of DC "I know who you are, but our policy is to ID anyone paying with a credit card that hasn't signed the back of the card." He rolled his eyes and made a big deal of pulling out his Mayor of DC ID.
Many places I’ve bought booze in have a sign that says “we card anyone that looks under 35”, which seems like a practical solution. I definitely can’t tell the difference between 18-25, but 21 and 35+ is easy.
I sure that I’m not the first to mention this, but the amount of high end beer rotting on the warm shelves at Total Wine or BevMo is so depressing that I pretty much avoid going into those stores.
Damn, that's a lot of stuff that would've been good to know the last time I went through Utah. It wouldn't have made any difference, but it would've been good to know.
I'm always happy to show my I.D.--I always say :Hey! Today's my birthday! I just turned 21, thanks for asking!
Let’s be real-The lawyers will scream discrimination regardless as it’s how they make money. The other lawyers would argue IDs to buy alcohol aren’t fair because it negatively impacts the poor and marginalized who can’t afford or obtain a government ID.
I work for a grocery store in DFW that's part of a company based in Lubbock. While the TABC says you are not required to show ID for any NA purchase, beer or wine, we all know that most beers do have that liiiiiiitle bit. My company decided to just put the "ID required" code on the all the NAs we sell as well. Just card 'em all. Nobody ever died from pulling out their wallet to get their ID, since it was coming out to pay for the beer anyway..............
When you get right down to it, there's no down side to just carding everyone. At worst you might look a bit silly carding some 90 year old geezer, but no one ever died from that. And it's not like you're going to take your business elsewhere just because the store clerk asked you to show some ID. The worst that can probably happen is that some disgruntled customer posts his experience on some social media platform. I doubt that's any skin off the nose of BEVMO or any other beer store.
I’m a courier for a large company I won’t say which you can assume and when delivering alcohol amongst other things they want either an ID scan with the work phone and or at minimum a birthdate manually punched in for 21+ age to even be able to release the package. Some companies truly do not want to deal with any sort of liability to the point where yes you’re obviously above age they just want to feel in control
I've been thinking about this for the last couple of minutes and decided that if I'm going to a place where I know I'll get carded I'm going to show them my passport.
Perfectly legal. Here in WA DL, Military ID, state ID card, Tribal ID, and Passports are legal forms of ID.
I don't take it personally. It's the company policy so I just don't shop at those stores. Plenty of options where the management uses common sense.
Really? This is a deal killer for you? If a store had a good selection and good prices, and was conveniently located, you would stop shopping there because they require you to show ID? Not trying to be argumentative... just trying to understand. I'm 69 myself, and still get carded on occasion (I clearly do not look like I'm under 21). It gives me a chuckle, but it doesn’t bother me. It's not a factor in deciding whether or not I'll shop at a particular store.
Plenty of reasons not to buy beer at stores like BevMo and Total Wine but this isn’t one of them. My wallet’s open anyway and my license is literally millimeters away from my credit card, so what’s the big deal. I’ve spent more time writing about this issue in this thread than I’ve spent in the last 30 years thinking about it.
Used to know a young woman (now an old woman) who carried around her birth certificate as ID, folded to be pocket-sized. I always wondered if a bar questioned it, did she say "Bring out a ink pad and a sheet of paper and I'll prove that's my footprint!" Angriest I ever saw over an ID check was when my SO (about 5 years younger than me) and I went into a crowded show side by side, a guy checking IDs on my left and another guy on her right checking them on that line. ME: "Man, that's the first time that happened in years -they IDed me." HER: "WHAT?! They didn't check me!"
The most amusing ID situation I ever experienced: at a Dallas Stars game way back in the day (in the old Reunion Arena). Between periods I hit the gents', then got in line for a beer. Got to the front and the very nice lady asked me for my ID (in my 40s at the time). I laughed, pulled out my wallet and handed it to her. She sheepishly handed it back to me and said she couldn't sell me a beer because it was expired (actual law here. expired is not a valid ID, and if you ask,one has to be provided to make the sale). All the people who had laughed when they heard her ask for my ID were suddenly scrambling to make sure theirs were good. She very quietly apologized and said the TABC is in the building, and they've already popped 3 stands because of ID issues. I thanked her, went back to my seat and promptly flagged down the beer guy working our aisle and bought a beer.
