Loved the beer, until they changed it

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kygolfer, Feb 17, 2026.

  1. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I don’t doubt you, but I've always felt like there was considerable batch variation (from batch to batch). So it's been hard for me to tell whether there's been a recipe change.

    That being said, early batches were really terrific (back when you could only get it on tap or Crowler), and more recent batches have been pretty "mehhh." Soooo....
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Pliny the Elder is available in my area on draft. PtE has definitely 'evolved' over the past decade+ and FWIW for the better IMO. One striking aspect is the appearance. Contemporary PtE looks like a Pilsner (straw yellow color); Vinnie has 'backed off' the amount of crystal malt. And there has been some 'tweaks' as regards the hops (and hopping schedule) as well.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Had not heard that. I'll believe it when I see it.
     
  4. Kygolfer

    Kygolfer Initiate (40) Feb 17, 2026 Kentucky

    No. Hope this is true.
     
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  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  6. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    I can’t make any guarantees on the end result, but I’m not making it up.
     
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  7. chrisjws

    chrisjws Grand Pooh-Bah (3,302) Dec 3, 2014 California
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    I nearly baptized the bar top in non-amber spray when I had Fat Tire last year.

    There was a time it poured like polished copper and drank like it meant something. Toasty, a little sweet, built for long conversations and questionable decisions. Then it drowned, first in a rising tide of turpentine IPAs, and later under the murky flood of turbid haze. It didn’t so much disappear as get swallowed whole by the arms race.

    When it resurfaced, it wasn’t bad. That would’ve been merciful. It was fine. Lighter. Politer. Scrubbed down until the fingerprints were gone.

    Not a tweak. Not a gentle evolution. This felt like something else zipped up inside Fat Tire’s old skin. Same badge. Different pulse.

    The kids call that skinwalking.
     
  8. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Stole my thunder.
     
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  9. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Smuttynose Finestkind
     
  10. shadyside

    shadyside Maven (1,270) Feb 27, 2011 Georgia

    Iron City, out of Pittsburgh, was a bad beer. They closed their Pittsburgh brewery down and moved to the old Rolling Rock brewery in Latrobe, PA. It got worse. About 5 or 6 years ago, they opened a new brewery in Creighton, PA and, in my opinion, it has become a drinkable beer.
     
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  11. tennisjoel

    tennisjoel Crusader (401) Nov 21, 2007 Minnesota

    I remember initially liking most Anchor beers, but let down as I revisited them (Porter, Steam, Liberty, Christmas variants all seemed thin). Didn't they used to make a barleywine, or maybe I'm just imagining?
     
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  12. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Old Foghorn and it was delicious.
     
  13. zotzot

    zotzot Grand Pooh-Bah (5,352) Feb 22, 2015 Vermont
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    Agreed it’s all subjective, but it’s a dis’s appointment when it isn’t what it was
     
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  14. Darkmagus82

    Darkmagus82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 25, 2010 Texas
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    I loved Rampant! Damn I forgot about that brew ... That and Belgo were solid IPAs by them.
     
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  15. Darkmagus82

    Darkmagus82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 25, 2010 Texas
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    I may be wrong, but I think they are still rocking the same recipe. Just had one the other day, and as I remembered it, it is still a super easy drinking, flavorful, and balanced brew.
     
  16. deleted_user_1379257

    deleted_user_1379257 Pundit (865) Feb 17, 2026
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    I go the other way... Harp is better now than it used to be. The old green label lager wasn't as good as it is now. I'm guessing Guinness Americanized it so we'd drink more.
     
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  17. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Americanized it? Not sure what you mean by that.

    If I heard that expression with respect to a lager, I would be afraid that meant the recipe had been dumbed down.... so it would taste more like a macro AAL.
     
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  18. BJC

    BJC Zealot (626) Nov 9, 2002 New Jersey

    When drinking Harp while visiting Ireland, I found it to be thin and watery. How much more like an AAL can you get?
     
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  19. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Got it. I misunderstood your OP.

    Cheers!
     
  20. IMFletcher

    IMFletcher Pooh-Bah (2,854) May 2, 2014 Kentucky
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    I have a long neck Pete's with no pitchfork that I intend to open on the Cellaruary thread this month.
     
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