Breweries Just Holding On

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by zotzot, Mar 15, 2026.

  1. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Same cask beer demographic that you'd find in Britain. But in a much different beer culture.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I witnessed the exact same thing attending a recent German Beer festival in Philly.

    In other words not just a cask thing.

    Cheers!

    P.S. The cost to attend the German Beer festival was pricey.
     
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  3. unklebik

    unklebik Initiate (90) Dec 25, 2025 Ohio

    OUCH!! If that ain't all gloom n doom!
    I think i'll go drown my self in some seltzer...:astonished::grimacing:
     
  4. hefeweizass

    hefeweizass Devotee (320) Nov 11, 2025 New York
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    I don't think I have anything useful to say in response to that, I've only ever worked in health food stores that cater to people with bigger wallets.

    I guess I've always considered craft beer to be outside of the non-wealthy or working-class segment of the economy to begin with? At least here in the capitalist paradise that is the US. Furthermore, I don't know if any of the local breweries I buy from really cater to anyone but the people that are into/can afford craft beers. Maybe this is just the region that I am in (Hudson Valley). All the major players here seem to be doing great, and have really nice locations with events, music, et cetera and tbqh, a very specific type of crowd.

    I'm sure the places that sell conventional beer, like main grocery chains here, are doing just fine. They only really seem to care about filling the walls with as much as they can, to the detriment of quality, dates, et cetera.
     
  5. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    A relatively useful way to make use of seltzer.
     
  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I wonder how the demographics of beer festivals compare to demographics of craft
    beer drinkers in general. I haven't been to a beer fest in a decade or so, and was never a big fest guy, maybe some other BAs can weigh in on what they see between beer fest attendees and their typical brewery crowd.

    Do your local breweries skew similar to what you saw at those two festivals?
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I can provide one more 'data point'. A local craft brewery, Sly Fox, held a 30th anniversary event a few months ago. This was a zero cost (no tickets needed) event and once again the vast majority of folks there had gray hair.
    You guess is as good as mine here.

    Oh, one more 'data point' (but a supposition). In a few months I will once again attend a National Homebrewers Conference (now branded as Homebrew Con). If the 2026 version of this event is like past years: lots of people with gray hair attending.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. zotzot

    zotzot Grand Pooh-Bah (5,352) Feb 22, 2015 Vermont
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    We’ve had quite a number pivot to emphasize their food menus. Here, they are turning into a space of young families - lots of kids and, when allowed, lots of dogs.
     
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  9. zotzot

    zotzot Grand Pooh-Bah (5,352) Feb 22, 2015 Vermont
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    I agree, it’s a tough market, tough business. I’ve seem]n lots go out of business recently and lots changing their focus to food…
    I think the excitement of 5-10+ years ago has subsided. It’s not as in.
     
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  10. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    And that's because I was talking about the end consumer, and what they are doing instead.
    Those are actual realities that are in play in the marketplace a brewery able to withstand a lower cash flow is also experiencing.
     
  11. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Homebrewing is a hobby you pick up when you have free time, then it somehow get's sucked away by family and career, and then you can get back into once it calms down. How many fishermen in their 30s or 40s are out there every week?
     
  12. cheeseheadinMinneapolis

    cheeseheadinMinneapolis Pooh-Bah (2,011) Sep 20, 2017 Wisconsin
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    They can't afford it but more than anything they don't care about it or are drinking a different type of Alcohol. Plus are buying THC products instead.
    I notice more and more for big beer releases that there are very few people under 40 and most are over 50

    Plus I have been to tap room only Big beer releases.were many people especially the younger crowd are NOT drinking the big stuff, there just regulars there for the crowd or would have been there anyhow
     
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  13. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Tired Hands?


    Enjoy
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You bring your kids with you and instill the love of fishing.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. blueshawk69

    blueshawk69 Pooh-Bah (1,711) Jul 16, 2022 Kansas
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    OR....I got into homebrewing in 1995 because I either couldn't afford the import beer prices or nobody was brewing/offering the extreme, high-alcohol, kitchen-sink, umpteen-spiced holiday beers except for Anchor Steam and Sierra Nevada.

    Fast forward to the 2000s and I could not only find umpteen dozen, strong, bizarre, even barrel-aged brews in the stores but my wallet could finally afford to buy whatever caught my fancy eye!

    Then around 2005, besides the fact that homebrewing is a LOT of work for sometimes questionable 5 gallon batches that you don't know until weeks after the work if'n it's worth drinking....well....I'll just buy my brew now & save myself all the work, storage space, sanitization etc., plus down through the decades I'd look on the shelves, read the labels & laugh that some brewery basically recreated many of my old homebrew recipes for Cherryball Stout, Holiday Humbug Mojo, Mr. Blues Brown, Rock 'N' Billy Bitter, Coffee Blues Stout & on & on & on.

    As well as variations of mead, melomel & braggot.

    Still got a few decades old melomel if'n anybody wants any cleaning product...er....I mean...melomel....

    And for the record, I actually know some local, "In-Fisherman" who are still out there as often as possible in their 70s & 80s. But then again, they're hardcore....
     
  16. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I also remember my dad using slurs for Swedes that I hadn't heard before or since because of the Volvo turbo diesel on the boat acting up.
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Ah, the good old days when people were not PC!?!:flushed:

    Cheers!
     
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  18. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I think he just had a gift.
     
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  19. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    MacLeod ales in Van Nuys
    Priding themselves on ONLY cask ales they are down 1 on tap with 10 or so guest taps and bottles aling with some seltzers and micheladas

    Cant blame them. They do what they have to to stay open

    Its the shit american culture.
    What can you do?
    We fuckin suck as a country Now
    . Everyone is the new gen is a useless piece of shit that cant read or write and just wants Adderall. Thanks boomers.
     
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  20. beershrine

    beershrine Pundit (819) May 29, 2004 Idaho

    Beer's best time lives in the past a memory of good times...presently we're not there yet. Cheers and all that but I still buy beer and home brew. others...I can't imagine how difficult a winery would be for a start up without huge investments.