Packaging Date Or Expiration Date. Which Do You Prefer For your Beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by LesDewitt4beer, Mar 19, 2026.

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Packaging Date Or Expiration Date?

  1. Packaging Date

    99 vote(s)
    91.7%
  2. Expiration Date

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  3. Doesn't Matter

    6 vote(s)
    5.6%
  1. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    A few German breweries show both -- I believe Hofbräu does it on their cans. Maybe Paulaner, too. They show 12 month BB date.
     
  2. 67elbirdos

    67elbirdos Crusader (403) Sep 20, 2021 Missouri
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    Make no mistake, I’m completely with you. I was attempting to be funny by asking the question in Deutsch, since some (too many?) German exports land here with an 18-month “shelf life”.

    Of course, it helps if there’s decipherable coding that indicates a bottling/canning date.
     
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  3. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    preach
     
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  4. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    Too many brewers put those BBD dates of 12 months or whatever knowing damn well their product won't even each the half-life due how they are shipped & stored before purchase
     
  5. deleted_user_1379257

    deleted_user_1379257 Pundit (865) Feb 17, 2026
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    YOU may know, but not everyone else does.
     
  6. LesDewitt4beer

    LesDewitt4beer Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,315) Jan 25, 2021 Minnesota
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    Sometimes I roll the dice and buy craft beer, usually local, that has no dating info at all. 90% of the time it's all good. The beer is nice. Some do, some don't. But deep down it's a packaging date I want to see on the product. The fractal amount of variables that are involved btwn that beer leaving the brite tank and me popping the top create imaginary scenarios in my mind as to how the product has been handled or tended to. I grumble when I see a beer store selling expired beer but sometimes they don't have much of a choice and some folks don't know or care. I won't buy it. At least some pay attention and when I see fresh imports, that's a big bonus. I believe the Julian Code (L//day number of year//year) for dating is common for most of continental Europe with a few exceptions, Heineken being one of them. I'm sure someone else can lay this out in a more complete fashion, but all in all it's a solid freshness date that buyers can assess.
    In Dec. 2024 I picked up a 4pk of Bell's Black Note Stout. It was excellent however on the reverse of the label the date wording was: Shelf Life Unlimited. So then, 2000 years give or take a century? I love Bell's but I thought that was rather aloof and even cocky of them. Gimme that packaging date so I can do the mental gymnastics for deciding if it's worth my purchase. Cheers! :beers:
     
  7. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    No disagreement there. There's like 8 billion people on the planet. But, in general, regular users of this website, are pretty well-informed on when beers are at their best. Make no mistake, many folks don't care. There are many people on this site that have no interest in either packaged on or expiration dates. And that's fine. Hell, I'm in that camp myself fairly frequently (probably half the beer I drink is consumed at bars/restaurants, where I have no idea how old the beer is). But, people who do care about freshness, know when certain styles are best, and know that the packaged on date is the most be informative piece of information. Expiration dates are largely irrelevant to such folks. Beer doesn't go bad, first of all, so it's never "expired." And second, as I suggested in my original post, there's a financial incentive to misleading customers on when the beer is truly at its best. Thus any "best-by" or "expiration" date will get significant side-eye from the folks who care about freshness.
     
  8. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Next poll: Which is better, 1 beer, or 2 beers?
     
  9. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Ok THIS poll may be the first which sees 100% of the people voting for one choice.

    2 beers...always....who drinks just ONE beer?
     
  10. deleted_user_1379257

    deleted_user_1379257 Pundit (865) Feb 17, 2026
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    If the beer is 22oz or more, I’m not having two. :stuck_out_tongue: :beers:
     
  11. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Well... I have at times. (shrug)

    @jesskidden
     
  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Well, that's technically more than one drink isn't it? :wink:

    It was mostly tongue-in-cheek...mostly.
     
  13. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I know. Mostly. :grin:
     
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  14. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  15. deleted_user_1379257

    deleted_user_1379257 Pundit (865) Feb 17, 2026
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    If a 40oz can be one drink, so can a 22oz mug! :stuck_out_tongue::beers:
     
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  16. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Expiration date has no value. Those dates are based on said beer being stored in ideal conditions. Most of the time beers are not.
     
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  17. MikeWard

    MikeWard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,023) Sep 14, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Packaged on date always. Then can make a reasonable decision based on style.
     
  18. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    With a packaged on date the goal would be to drink it as close to when it was packaged as possible. If there is an expiration date the goal would be to drink it as far away from that as possible.

    The "best by" date could be used at least two different ways possibly for ulterior motives I think, either to have a close best by (3 month or less, for instance Stone Enjoy By) to exacerbate freshness and also increase sales, but when it gets past the best by people don't want to purchase it thinking it won't be good anymore. Another way is if the best by is too far away, then it could increase sales with consumers thinking the beer is still fresh, when it could be well past it's prime, in the case of IPAs being more than 6 months old, or even light pale lagers 9 months or older imo.

    So, for me packaging date is best with the obvious intent to drink it as close to the freshest as possible, because I don't know how old a best by or expiration date could be. If I know a beer was packaged more than 6-9 months ago then I know it is no longer fresh and to probably not purchase it unless it's a sour wild ale, stronger or maybe a malty darker style that can hold up near a year. For food products I prefer an expiration or best by date I suppose because it can spoil.
     
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  19. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    [QUOTE="Providence, post: 8340084, member: 431592". Hell, I'm in that camp myself fairly frequently (probably half the beer I drink is consumed at bars/restaurants, where I have no idea how old the beer is).[/QUOTE]

    If you're talking about draft I'm with you. But cans and bottles at a restaurant? You're far more of a risk taker than I am.

    In my experience most bars and restaurants continue to sell their beer inventory until it's gone. If that takes a couple months or a couple of years, it's all the same to them. Obviously, they want to turn over inventory as quickly as possible, but as long as they get their money back with a decent profit, they don't care how long it takes.
     
  20. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I only order draft beer when out. If a bar/restaurant doesn't have draft, then I'll either not drink at all or have a whisky.
     
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