Scoring: What do the numbers mean to you?

Talk Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by doomXsaloon, May 30, 2026 at 5:23 PM.

  1. doomXsaloon

    doomXsaloon Savant (1,112) Jul 22, 2009 New York
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    Good morning BA community!
    A topic I've been wanting to discuss is beer scoring.
    As a teacher, I often created rubrics for scoring projects and presentations--typically 4 or 5 categories, from which I could easily covert to numerical score out of 100. So, for 5 category it would be:
    5=100
    4=80
    3=60
    2=40
    1=20

    I apply this directly to BA beer rating, with the additional intervals like
    4.75= 95
    4.5=90
    4.25=85
    and so on....

    This converts somewhat roughly to letter grades as well:
    A=90-100, BA score 4.5- 5
    B=80-89, BA score 4- 4.25
    C=70-79, BA score 3.5-3.75
    D= 65-69, BA score 3.25
    F=<60, BA score 3 and under
    2.75=55
    2.5=50
    etc.

    However, I do often see someone liking a beer, even praising a beer as 'very good,' saying it's a solid B/B+ but only scoring it in the 3s, which, to me, is at best a C+, but possibly a D;
    but, from my perspective, B/B+ would be at least a 4.

    I think most agree that a rating under 3 is not a beer you really want to drink.
    (And 2 is trash.)

    So, I'd like to open the conversation and hear from others to see where people are with their rating 'rubric.'
    What do the numbers mean to you?
    How do you interpret/convert the 5 point BA scale?
    Yours, in fraternal fermentation,
    doomXsaloon
    Cheers!
     
  2. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Sooo... for me personally, I think anything that has an average of 4 or more is probably a pretty good beer. That's how I tend to score the beers I review as well. If I give a beer a score of 4.25 or higher in any given category, there has to be something unusually special or good going on.

    That being said, I don't feel as if this is an exact science, and it's not something I stress about. There's no exact numeric correlation to the scores I give. For example, if I give a beer a score of 4.5, I'm not thinking about what that means in terms of a letter grade or the hundred point system. I just know that's a pretty high score, one that I don't tend to give out all often.
     
  3. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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  4. doomXsaloon

    doomXsaloon Savant (1,112) Jul 22, 2009 New York
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    I'd imagine they keep it simple...
    Good beer= horns up headbanging
    Bad= yeah, this sucks. Posers
     
  5. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I admittedly score higher than others, and my current average is 4.12 because I avoid buying beers that are likely to suck. If I review a beer and it scores between 4.75 and 5.0, I'll rush right out and buy as much as I can. From 4.25 to 4.75, I may grab more sometime but won't go looking for it. Below 4.25, I'll probably never buy it again.
     
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  6. MikeWard

    MikeWard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,023) Sep 14, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    When I joined BA, the average score across the board was 3.75, so I went with that as an average beer. My overall average is 3.88. No 5's (yet), lowest is 1 71.
     
  7. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Interesting take. I treat ratings like tipping: default is 4.0 (20%).
     
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  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Kind of the way I look at it as well, except for me it would be 3.5. A 3.5 beer for me is perfectly OK, but isn't something I would go looking for. There's too much really good beer out there to settle for a 3.5 beer.
     
  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    That pretty well aligns with how I rated when I was doing it. My school system used a 0-100 grading system, with 70 being passing, so that's kind of how I based my scoring.
     
  10. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    This is always an interesting topic because people take different approaches. Like @bbtkd I tend to score a little higher. I try to adhere to what our fearless leader @Todd lays out in the scoring thread. I always compare beers within styles versus across styles, so I'll have some high scorers within a style. I start with a 5 and deduct points for flaws or missing style adherence. A German Pils that nails the style across the board is going to get 4.5+ plus from me even if it doesn't have citrusy hop bomb aroma. There are world class Helles and Czech Pilsners out there. At the end of the day, to each their own.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/how-to-review-a-beer.241156/
     
  11. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    If I like a beer, my score for it will usually reflect how much I like it vs. how well It meets style guidelines. If I don't like it, I don't want to penalize it for that, so I try my best to disregard my preferences and consider style, perhaps comparing it to others of that style that I've had.
     
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  12. BillAfromSoCal

    BillAfromSoCal Pooh-Bah (2,415) Aug 24, 2020 California
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    I try to rate by the style guidance, although I admittedly will grant extra points if the drinking experience is exactly like the can says it will be, even if there is some tweak that is a modification of the classic style. Likewise, I will deduct points if the experience bears no resemblance to the can claims. After all, I will often buy a new beer based on what the can claims I will experience; I expect it to be fairly accurate. The distribution of my scores is disappointingly narrow; huge majority of my beer scores are clustered between ~3.8 and 4.2. Generally, if a beer does not score at least a 4.0 average by me, I won't buy it again because it is too easy to find beers that I scored 4.0 or higher.
     
  13. zotzot

    zotzot Grand Pooh-Bah (5,352) Feb 22, 2015 Vermont
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    It’s clearly varies a lot with the person.
    I rate very little over 4.5 but have rated many between 4 and 4.25. I rate few below 3.5. My average is also 3.88. I think it’s interesting that many of us rate most of the beers we drink between 3.75 and 4.25; I’ve been consciously trying to drive my ratings down since it appears skewed towards higher numbers.
    I score very few below 3.5, reserving that to macro-lagers - Stella, Corona;
     
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  14. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    That's where the overall score comes in. It's interesting to see how that 20% changes the total score. It can miss the style guidelines for taste and aroma for example, but if you still really like the beer and give it a 5 for the Overall it will get a Good or Very Good score.
     
  15. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    The clustering just shows you are very consistent in your scoring. A good thing.
     
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  16. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I doubt it's in writing anyplace, but the general rule of thumb bandied about is that overall is usually the same as taste, so that must be somewhat discretional too. I guess that right or wrong, your entire rating is discretional.
     
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  17. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    It is described as overall impression of the beer: How was the overall drinking experience? What did you find pleasurable or objectionable about it? Offer suggestions for improvement. Yes, you're right it is somewhat discretionary.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/how-to-review-a-beer.241156/
     
  18. UWDAWG

    UWDAWG Grand Pooh-Bah (3,241) Aug 22, 2017 Washington
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    Love your rubric it matches my rating system pretty well!!!
     
  19. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    Personally I think of it like this:

    5 - Exceptional
    4.5 - Excellent
    4 - Very Good
    3.5 - Above Average
    3.0 - Average

    Below 3 is “do not pass go, do not collect $200”
     
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  20. doomXsaloon

    doomXsaloon Savant (1,112) Jul 22, 2009 New York
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    Yeah, a 4 is typically my go to number for 'good,' like an '8' or 80%
     
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