Bad beer and bad brewery communication

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by kelvarnsen, Feb 11, 2013.

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  1. kelvarnsen

    kelvarnsen Pundit (944) Nov 30, 2011 Canada (ON)

    Over the Christmas holidays I did some cross border shopping to the US and picked up a bunch of beer. One of the bottles I brought back tasted really bad and clearly something was off about it. So the next day I sent a polite email to the brewery letting them know that there was some bad product about there. That was about 3 weeks ago and I have not heard any reply from them. To me that is kind of bad customer service. So my question is this, if this happened to anyone else would you post publicly about the problem with the beer (like on their Facebook page or something) or not. Or would you wait longer? I am just kind of annoyed since it is a brewer that I really liked in the past.
     
  2. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    It was an international email that probably had to be translated into Canadian. Give it a while longer.
     
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  3. jtdolla911

    jtdolla911 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 Massachusetts

    Good question, I had issues with two separate foreign beers, both which came over with little to no yeast present. I informed the retailers who informed the distributor, whose response was basically "tough shit". I sent an email to both breweries with no response. Both were Belgian, so language is probably an issue.

    In your case, if the brewery snubbed you, I would inform the retailer/distro and post on their Facebook page. You don't have to bad mouth them, just say that you emailed about an issue and got brushed off. Let people make decisions based on your experience without destroying your own credibility. And, there may be different brewery personnel in charge of emails and facebook content, so you may reach a different part of the company. That's just my two cents on the issue.
     
  4. BillManley

    BillManley Pundit (954) Jul 2, 2008 North Carolina
    Trader

    If it were my beer, I would prefer a discreet email, which you've already done. Second choice, a direct message via Facebook. If that still doesn't work, a public message via facebook would be OK as well.
    We see nothing wrong with addressing a potential problem publicly because we see it as a way to show how we do our customer service.

    Don't be shy, let the brewers know.

    -Bill
     
  5. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I'd send a follow-up email before you post anything publicly. The first email might have gotten lost, deleted, overlooked, etc. Let them know that you sent a message 3 weeks ago and haven't heard back. These are human beings after all, prone to make mistakes.

    If you still don't hear back within a reasonable period after that, unleash hell.
     
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  6. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Not knowing what your email said I have nothing to go off of but I will say that you are more likely to receive follow up from a brewery if you a detailed in your message. Breweries get a lot of emails and many of them are very generic. A generic email is not going to be the easiest to respond to. If you are more detailed you will more than likely supply needed information and make responding easier and the whole communication process much more efficient.

    Also, depending on the brewery, the person in charge of responding to emails may have several other responsibilities, may have had to route the email to a more appropriate person for answers or a number of other possibilities. This is said not to excuse the brewery by any means but it is just being realistic about the way things work at some breweries.

    This post is not in direct response to the OP, there is not enough information for me to make any informed judgement, but it is more of a general statement about contacting breweries. Help them help you, provide as much useful and unbiased information as you can and make their job responding to you as easy as possible. This will certainly increase your chances of a response.
     
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  7. Mandark

    Mandark Zealot (587) Apr 8, 2008 Illinois

    Took another brewer about six weeks to get back to an email I sent them regarding a six pack of bad beer I'd bought on vacation (they don't distribute to Illinois). Their QC guy replied eventually with apologies and ended up sending me a replacement 6 pack and a nice bottle opener. Don't be impatient!
     
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  8. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Call the RCMP. What brewery is it?
     
  9. Ohsaycanyoubeer

    Ohsaycanyoubeer Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Colorado

    I must say one particular brewery gave me the absolute opposite reaction.

    I sent an email to the owner, yes he lists his e-mail, telling them that I noticed a large number of floating yeast in the bottle and even though it didn't have an affect on the taste it was still visually displeasing. I was responded to within 24 hours saying they were aware of the problem and offered to refund the bottles and pay for shipping.
     
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  10. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I have had good response to issue from many breweries EXCEPT

    Breckenridge. I have stopped buying their beer forever. Not that it was great but the small batch IPA on tap was pretty darn good.

    I did email Troegs with a question and have not heard back but it had nothing to do with any beer problem.

    Enjoy
     
  11. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    What outcome are you looking for?
     
  12. kelvarnsen

    kelvarnsen Pundit (944) Nov 30, 2011 Canada (ON)

    Mostly just a response to show that they care that a customer took the time to let them know there is bad product out there. Plus maybe some sort of confirmation that they are looking into the problem, because otherwise I am not sure I would buy any of their beer again. Especially since when I am in the US I have a ton of choices of different things to try that I don't normally have available.
     
  13. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Pundit (922) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    Um... all the Belgians I have met have spoken and written a minimum of 4 languages with complete fluency...
     
  14. nachos

    nachos Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2012 Michigan

    My advice is to contact Mr. Lahey and Randy, I am quite sure they will get to the bottom of it.
     
  15. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I've had incredibly positive responses with Weyerbacher in the past which is why I'll be a fan of theirs for life. Depending on the brewery, they could be working with a bare bones crew and they wear several hats and sometimes things slip through the cracks (unfortunately). I'm old fashioned, if it's that important just pick up the @#$% phone. :grimacing:
     
  16. Longstaff

    Longstaff Initiate (0) May 23, 2002 Massachusetts


    Seems like you are looking for a little more than just letting them know about bad product. If that was really your only goal, you've accomplished it - move on.
     
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  17. Stigs

    Stigs Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2005 Pennsylvania

    thought this was oging to be another Sixpoint thread, moving on...
     
  18. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    i was just about to say that Sixpoint responded to my e-mail and sent me a t-shirt, and 3 4 packs, all because I e-mailed them with a concern about a damaged 4 pack I had picked up.
     
  19. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    I'm going to send them an email saying I'm concerend about your concern and see what I can get!
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Do you have a story that you feel comfortable sharing with us?

    Cheers!
     
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