Online Tasting: Bocks (April 23-25)

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by TongoRad, Apr 4, 2021.

  1. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,876) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Come join us for our next online tasting which will focus on Bock beers, a style traditionally associated with Spring. As legend has it, Germans do enjoy gathering in their beer gardens, so even though the weather could be chilly, serving the stronger beer would compensate for that. Makes sense to me, so let's bring it on! :grin:

    The origin of the style is a strong brown beer from Einbeck, Germany, originally brewed in the 1600s; and then emulated by the brewers of Munich. This was prior to the development of lager brewing, mind you. That particular refinement came later. For more on the history you can check out the Wikipedia entry for a quick hit:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bock

    And this Michael Jackson piece is more in depth:
    http://www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-000034.html

    Naturally, through the years there have been many variations developed so we're not just talking about a strong brown lager any more. The Dopelbock is even stronger. The Maibock is pale and hoppier. The American version more resembles a beefy AAL. And there are even Weizenbocks of various strengths and shades.

    Interestingly, those Weizenbocks are probably closer to the original beer than the Munich lagers were. A quote from the MJ piece:
    The bottom line for our tasting will be: if it says Bock on the label in some form or another you're good to go. So gather whatever samples you can, and come join us! Hope to see you all then. Cheers!
     
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  2. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Wish I was seeing more Bocks around these days. No HB Maibock showing anywhere, Seipp's Columbia Traditional was just okay, and I bought one six of Lakefront Maibock that was delicious -- but the store only got one case and it evaporated. :confused:

    Might have to splurge on Dovetail or Metropolitan if I see them.
     
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  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,876) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I hear you on that. I have a couple of Maibocks but haven't seen any Traditional Bocks yet.

    Doppelbocks and Weizenbocks should be readily available to everybody, though.
     
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  4. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Probably true, but I always look for something new.

    Thinking on it, I haven't had Aventinus in a while... :slight_smile:
     
  5. Ronmarley1

    Ronmarley1 Aspirant (250) Jan 20, 2014 Ohio
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    The Hofbräu Maibock is really good. I’ll be getting a second sixer next week.
     
  6. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Be sure it's new stock -- I still see last year's six-packs on shelves.

    The code should have a U, not a T in the string -- from experience, the fresh is always better.
     
  7. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,876) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Here's my lineup so far:
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    So I'll be veering off the beaten path with at least one entry.
     
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  8. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I haven't seen Smoke & Ice anywhere either. :confused:

    Oh -- and get that Einbeck outta the light!! :grin:
     
  9. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,046) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    What's the date code on that Einbecker?

    I (knowing exactly what I was doing) picked up a 4 pack of Einbecker from the Burnsville, MN Total Wine. It will be the subject of a bit of a rant when the time comes!
     
  10. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    :joy:
    I just looked up Einbecker Maibock on the Binny's website. Says it's a spring seasonal and out of stock. Oy.

    Oh, and they're only 4-packs anymore? :confused:
     
  11. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Meyvn (1,313) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois

    Thanks for organizing this Bock Tasting @TongoRad , looking forward to cracking three Bocks open later this month.

    I went through a few of the easier to obtain Bocks during the Fall tasting, but have three on hand for the weekend, all new to me. Two "Bock Style", one a true Bock.

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    • Chicago, Illinois, US Off Color Beer for Burgers - Helles Bock style beer blended with bourbon barrel aged lager. 7.0% ABV (No can date - released week of 1/11/21 per Off Color social media).
    • Vorchdorf, Austria Schloss Eggenberg Samichlaus Helles - Helles Malt Liquor, listed as a Maibock on BA. 14% ABV (Bottled December 2019)
    • Bridgman, Michigan, US Haymarket Cold Dark Night - Barrel Aged Dopplebock. 8% ABV (Canned 11/20/20)
    Will likely go with the stronger Samichlaus as a stand alone on Saturday, pick up a burger to pair with Beer for Burgers to kick of Sunday and close out with the BA Cold Dark Night to finish off the festivities.
     
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  12. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,046) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    Mine is the "regular" bock - Ur Bock sans Mai.
     
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  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Poo-Bah (1,819) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Local brewery has a bock, doppelbock and eisbock. Looks like I'll be checking em out.
     
  14. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    And they're 4-packs?

    Hmm... that label isn't even listed at Binny's... maybe the reason for your dismay? :grimacing:
     
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  15. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,046) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    Well, I had low expectations of the Burnsville Total Wine to begin with. Let's just say they were exceeded. I'll be tasting it anyway during the tasting, if for no other reason to attempt (futilely, I'm sure) to shame Total Wine.

    Of course, if someone has a different interpretation of the so-called "date code", I may eat crow. But, I'm not expecting that.

    Here's for format of the date code:

    Lxyyyzzz

    My assumed decoder ring:

    L=ignore
    x=year
    yyy=day of year
    zzz=ignore

    Anyone have a different decoder ring?
     
  16. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (4,219) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Want to swap? Got a local Eisbock and its origin beer, a Pale Doppelbock lager.

    Hoping KC Bier drops their other Eisbocks between now and this tasting. There are a couple 'on deck' on Untappd.
     
  17. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,597) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    All the Einbecker Bocks have come and gone late last year. :slight_frown:
     
  18. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,046) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    I'll post my complete lineup later, since I am thinking about picking up another local.to have another maibock. We'll see if I get around to it. (I do have plenty already...)

    Right now I have

    3 German
    3 MN
    1 WI

    1 Maibock
    3 Traditional Bock
    3 Doppelbock

    Outside of Shiner, Dead Man, and Michelob, there is not a single USA national or out of state large regional distributing a bock of any kind to MN.... at least not in the several stores for which I have checked their on-line listings. Pretty sad, and an indicator of the IPA (esp Hazy) beer monoculture made worse by the hard seltzer craze.
     
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  19. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,876) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I can't make sense of it:
    L4352430K16:03

    Best guess is 243rd day of 2020
     
  20. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,046) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    It doesn't make sense that your maibock would be from the 352nd day of 2014, so my decoder ring must be wrong.
     
  21. SABERG

    SABERG Poo-Bah (2,667) Sep 16, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Looking forward to this, a favorite style and event.
    Thanks @TongoRad
     
  22. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,876) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I tried googling in vain for a half hour and couldn't come up with anything to translate it.
     
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  23. Wasatch

    Wasatch Poo-Bah (6,991) Jun 8, 2005 Colorado
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    Maybe.

    Cheers!
     
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  24. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Poo-Bah (1,819) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I appreciate the offer. I've given up on trading. Losing %30 of my gross income during covid really curbed my spending
     
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  25. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not sure what you're saying, in your area? I've seen the Maibock locally.

    It's (or has been) a year-round availability.
     
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  26. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,597) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Yeah, sorry, in my neck of the woods.
     
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  27. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Sounds like the imports are drying up around you. I feel your pain.
     
  28. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,176) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    :thinking_face: I can't decide which one to pick:
    [​IMG]

    I mean, you can't get more "Bock" than two beers from a brewery named "Super Bock Group", can you?
    (Asking for a friend - one that works for Spoetzl...) :wink:
     
  29. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Bock Stout. Stout Bock? I hear the style naysayers gnashing their teeth. :grin:
     
  30. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,176) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Ah, this should calm them down...
    [​IMG]
     
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  31. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Isn't "Stout Malt Liquor" sort of redundant? :grin:

    (stout as an adjective, of course :wink:)
     
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  32. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,176) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, not if you read the fine print on that Schlitz label (bottom left).
    [​IMG]
    But that was also during an era when the Malt Liquor consumer was not the same as today's stereotypical "40" consumer. (At least in the mind of the Jos. Schlitz Brewing Co., as seen in the above pics from the 1970s annual reports).

    EDIT - (Hey, I think that's former First Lady Barbara Busch drinking a Schlitz Malt Liquor on the rocks (maybe w/lemon?), reading Town & Country. Don't know who the dude is, but I don't want to start another political sex scandal).
     
  33. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,876) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Stout beer for stout people. :sunglasses:
     
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  34. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,876) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    When every Bock is Super, no Bock is.
     
  35. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,176) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I don't know, those Portuguese-brewed Super Bocks must be inauthentic, contract-brewed versions because, as I understand it, to be a true "Super Bock" it's got to be brewed on the planet Krypton. (As such, Earth's yellow sun can not skunk the Super Bocks brewed under Krypton's red sun.)
     
  36. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    But, but... Krypton is no more. The supply must be dwindling!

    :wink:
     
  37. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Poo-Bah (3,931) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Youve started the hype train!!!
     
  38. Providence

    Providence Crusader (724) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    As soon as I saw this I was like, "Barbara Bush!?!"
     
  39. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,900) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    ISO? :thinking_face::wink:
     
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  40. BeerVikingSailor

    BeerVikingSailor Savant (966) Nov 19, 2009 Ohio
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    Looking forward to this one!
    Bocks are a fav - and I have quite a number that I will save for that upcoming weekend!
    Thanks @TongoRad for putting this together!
    Cheers