Chris Banker / Insurgente / Stone Xocoveza - Charred | Stone Brewing

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Chris Banker / Insurgente / Stone Xocoveza - CharredChris Banker / Insurgente / Stone Xocoveza - Charred
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stone Brewing
California, United States
stonebrewing.com

Style: Milk / Sweet Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Mocha stout Aged 3 Months in American Oak Kentucky Bourbon Barrels.


BREWED AUGUST 17, 2015

The base beer is the recipe of 2014 Stone Homebrew Competition winner Chris Banker, an intensely flavorful milk stout brewed with cocoa, coffee and spices to mimic the rich flavors of Mexican hot chocolate.

IN THE MASH
U.S. Pale, Maris Otter Pale, Crystal, Black Patent, Coffee Malt & Chocolate Malt

IN THE BOIL
Challenger & East Kent Golding Hops

SPECIAL INGREDIENTS
Lactose, Flaked Oats, Coffee, Vanilla, Pasilla Peppers, Nutmeg, Cinnamon & Cocoa

AGED
3 Months in American Oak Kentucky Bourbon Barrels

CELLAR NOTES
Time spent in bourbon barrels gave an already complex beer even more complexity and flavor intensity, layering additional caramel-like and vanilla flavors on top of those already present. Aromas of rich coffee and dark chocolate are followed by nutmeg and cinnamon; a lush, heavy mouthfeel laden with charred oak and toffee engulfs the palate on the first sip. Lingering pasilla pepper and soft oak flavors persist through an exceptionally long finish in this intensely rich and satisfying beer.

RELEASE DATE: December 14, 2015

Added by rudzud on 07-23-2015

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#1,008
Reviews:
143
Ratings:
538
pDev:
7.55%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
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Ratings: 538 |  Reviews: 143
Photo of Taphouse_Traveler
4.28/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Typical look for such a stout, deep black with little head.
Smell is subtle coffee and sweet.
Taste is coffee biterness with a mild cinnamon spice and pepper bite.
Feel is medium body.
Overall this is delicious, a great dessert beer.

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Photo of tommy5
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of bb-magic
4.24/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of teamwiggum
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of DanGeo
3.96/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Shaneb818
4.94/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Photo of KAP1356
3.96/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of reebtaerG
4.45/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of sd123
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Justdoit1234
4/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of crob3888
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of bobhits
4.12/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

The pour leaves me with little excitement. Brown and somewhat thin body, poured into a freshly washed snifter I get a bit of lacing and some nice fuzzy swirls on the surface. Surprisingly in the glass the color seems darker and actually is somewhat impressive. Not sure why the change.

The nose is cinnamon bread, chocolate, light roasted coffee, vanilla, perhaps some chia tea, a touch of a spice, and perhaps some mint. A firm swirl or 10 and I get some bourbon alcohol notes as well. My first wiff gave me a touch of a butter, but I'm not getting it any longer.

Cinnamon toast, with a sweet vanilla syrup with mint and chia and perhaps a watered down light bourbon touch. Then with a lingering coffee finish. The beer is pretty cinnamon toast intense but it backs off after that and brings in a lot of interesting flavors in a rather unintense way.

Barrel aging for 6 months as really taken the spice kick out of this and the bite away. I don't get more alcohol, the alcohol is pretty much non existent. I am also not getting much mouth feel from the carbonation and the beer is pretty thin bodied. This is an unfortunate result and is somewhat of a negative here.

A really great flavored beer with a HUGE failing in the mouth feel department. I feel like the feel here almost takes away from other aspects of the beer. I really wish they could get some thicker body or some carbonation here. It would take this from really good to something truly special and worth chasing down. I can't stress just how disappointing the texture is here and how much it takes away here. This is a home run that hit the green monster like a laser beam at the upper lip and fell in for a double.

Anyway at 16 bucks this one is expensive, but don't listen to the negatives above. Buy this one, it's really special and really really good. It had some real flaws and it isn't going to change your life, but if you're someone who's ok with spending this kind of money on beer, this is one to try.

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Photo of churchillps
4.01/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

Photo of PrestigeWorldwide
4.04/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of Tomesco
4/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Nunya
4.18/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of dream
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I really like this beer. Only aged 3 months in the bourbon casks, but i'm thinking it's just enough time to impart that extra chocolate, vanilla, toasted coconut and bourbon kick without distorting the amazing xocoveza base beer. IMO underrated, and better than the tequila aged offering.

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Photo of Jeffo
2.92/5  rDev -31.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Got this one a long time ago from vanlingleipa I think. If it wasn’t him and it was you, please forgive my old-man memory.

From a 50cl bottle into a snifter
Ale with lactose, coffee, vanilla, pasilla peppers, nutmeg, cinnamon, cocoa and aged 3 months in bourbon barrels
IBU: 32
Bottled December 2015

APPEARANCE: A clear black pour yields a 2 finger, foamy, medium-looser light tan head with very good retention. Clear black body with no carbonation evident. Head slowly fades to ring but leaves no real lacing down the glass. Some dots fall as the glass empties.

SMELL: Wood, cinnamon, coffee notes, nutmeg, some wine and a clear tartness on the nose. Not sure if that’s the point.

TASTE: Wood, cinnamon, oak and vanilla flavors up front. Some slight tart notes at the swallow as well, which come off as out of place. Medium finish of vanilla, wood, cinnamon, some perfume flavors and light coffee bitterness. White wine as well.

PALATE: Medium body and medium levels of carbonation. Creamy enough on the palate, goes down fine and finishes drier for the style. Some sharp, metallic notes lingers.

OVERALL: This is okay but the piercing wine flavors clashed with the base stout. The bourbon character wasn’t very well defined here either, which the adjunct additions became a muddled, mish-mash of everything plus the kitchen sink. Okay but it seems to lack a little focus. Strange to say a beer lacks focus, but maybe you get what I mean. Anyways, thanks again for the brews! Always good times.

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Photo of Hyptochrons
4.22/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

pours out a dark brown with a caramel head, leaves some nice lacing. aromas of roasty malts, coffee, chocolate, cinnamon, some bourbon and hint of vanilla/caramel. palate is much the same, but the spice characteristics come out much more complex - definite cinnamon and hint of nutmeg/allspice, chilles showing up, chocolate, some milky qualities, big roastyness, coffee, hint of dark fruit. finishes with some bourbon and barrel characteristics - oak, vanilla, hint of toffee. mouthfeel is decent but a bit thin.

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Photo of Pencible
4.32/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

A: This poured an opaque black with some tan head.
S: It smelled like smoky coffee and milk chocolate and chili powder, with some caramel and vanilla and toasted oak.
T: It tasted like French roast coffee and rich milk chocolate and chili powder, with some toasted oak and vanilla and cinnamon (maybe nutmeg or cardamon). It had a clean and sweet aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. Light body.
D: This was a delicious brew with complex and well balanced scent and taste. The body was weak but the finish was smooth with well hidden alcohol. So it was easy to drink but worth sipping. No need to age, drink now. So many subtleties to savor...recommended.

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4.22/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep jet black with a nice thick brown foam head. Nose is of caramel, coffee, cocoa and toasted malt. Taste of coffee, caramel, vanilla, toasted grains, oak and light sweet bourbon. Missing a bit of pepper spice? Interesting since the original Xocoveza I had was pretty overpowering in the pepper department. Nice creamy body that has a smooth mellow finish. Very nice beer.

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Photo of rolltide8425
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Franziskaner
4.18/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Black in color and impenetrable to light. There's a solid inch of creamy, dense brown foam on top. The nose is a complex blend of cocoa, coffee, and very faint sweet bourbon. I take a taste and sweet bourbon greets me greedily on the front of the palate. I'm then getting cocoa, coffee, vanilla, nutmeg, and cinnamon. The mouth is smooth due to the oats and has just a hint of warmth from the peppers. I have to wonder how this tasted about 3 months ago. It's very good, but I wanted a bit more of the bourbon and coffee.

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Photo of russpowell
4.1/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 2.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

This bottle says aged 6 months in the barrel, so this should be twice as good. The cork was a bear to get off. Pours an effervescent ebony with a pinky of caramel colored head. Some lacing & head retention

S: Faint mocha notes, chicory,

T: Coconut, dark & milk chocolate, some coffee notes, a little caramel too up front, some charred wood aspect to this as well. Nice vanilla notes along with more coconut & almond, plus cocoa as this warms. Finishes dry, a little warming, with more vanilla,caramel, coconut & very subtle charred grain

MF: Medium body, warming, carbonation is a little too assertive up front, but does help push the flavor profile

If the rest of the beer matched the flavor delivered, this would be world-class. Just very good/excellent

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Photo of JuiceMan818
4.19/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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