Old And In The Way
High Water Brewing

Old And In The WayOld And In The Way
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From:
High Water Brewing
 
California, United States
Style:
English Barleywine
ABV:
11%
Score:
84
Avg:
3.72 | pDev: 14.78%
Reviews:
19
Ratings:
47
Status:
Active
Rated:
Apr 05, 2020
Added:
Feb 05, 2011
Wants:
  7
Gots:
  17
SCORE
84
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Old And In The WayOld And In The Way
Notes: Old and In The Way Barley Wine Style Ale is brewed in the traditional English Barley Wine Style. Flavors of toffee, treacle and caramel emerge as the beer opens up. Enjoy this beer a little warmer to fully appreciate the depth and complexity of flavors in this beer. Brewed to be enjoyable as a sipping or fireside beer. Share one with a good friend.

11% ABV 95 IBU
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Rated: 3.9 by Sammy from Canada (ON)

Apr 05, 2020
 
Rated: 3.99 by Taphouse_Traveler from Florida

Aug 31, 2019
 
Rated: 3.31 by Oh_Dark_Star from Washington

May 06, 2019
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Reviewed by LiquidAmber from Washington

3.93/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Side by side tasting of properly cellared 2013 and 2016 bottles. Both poured into Fremont small snifters.
2013: Pours a dark, hazy orange brown with a quarter finger light khaki head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of caramel malt, dates, figs, dried plums, light oxidation. Flavor is dry biscuit and caramel malt, dates, figs, slight dried plums, a hint of oak and cocoa. Medium bodied with light creaminess. Flavor is dominated by dry biscuit malt and dates, closer to an old ale at this point. Fairly mellow, but not too complex.
2016: Pours a medium reddish orange with a thin, persistent light khaki head and light lacing. Aroma of caramel malt, dried plums and citron, a little orange and raisin. Flavor is mild caramel malt, candied fruit with orange, plum and citron, toffee. Medium bodied with light creaminess. This one has a more American style profile, with lighter fruit notes, however not with any of the hopping of that style. I'm not sure I've had a barleywine with this flavor before. It's a little sweet and relatively uncomplicated, but quite enjoyable.
Summary: these are two completely different barleywine and because High Water has some of their beer brewed by different breweries, I'm have to assume that these are two different recipes and actually different barleywines.The 2013 is closer to a classic English barleywine, but of the biscuity, maltier style rather than the more common plummy one. At five years, it has a clear aged large old ale profile and a nice mellow one at that. I regret not reviewing this one fresh, but I'm guessing that the original was biscuity too. It has aged well considereing that it is somewhat less complex than others of the style, but I'm a big fan of aged old ales, so this hit the spot. I'm not sure it would improve with any more age, but it seems to be holding its own very well. The 2016 is also a bit on the uncomplicated side, and as mentioned above, has more of the "triple IPA/American barleywine" profile of the base malt, but with slight hopping. That's probably a good thing for me because I'm not that enchanted with aged hoppy beers any more and this is probably more enjoyable at two years without strong hops. Despite the basic flavors, I liked this quite a bit. I probably would not age this much further as the flavors are nice and balanced right now and probably would not improve.
One of the more unusual of my comparisons of two aged beers due to the fact that the base beer was probably not the same. Fortunately, tasting barleywines is a reward in and of itself.
The rating is a rough amalgam of the two barleywines. Since I liked them both and they were relatively straightforward for each of their styles, the ratings were similar.
Jul 16, 2018
 
Rated: 4.38 by Tlock from Hawaii

Jul 16, 2018
 
Rated: 4.25 by RochefortChris from North Carolina

Feb 26, 2018
 
Rated: 4 by 1971bernat from Virginia

Jan 01, 2018
 
Rated: 4.16 by leprechaunandfatman from Ohio

Jul 08, 2017
 
Rated: 4.02 by Wajohnst from Canada (ON)

Nov 09, 2016
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Reviewed by Jeffo from Netherlands

4.02/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4
Got this one in Buffalo

From a bomber into a snifter

APPEARANCE: Pours a 2 finger, medium looking, creamy, off-white head with great retention. Opaque dark maroon red in color with no carbonation evident. Head slowly fades to a full wisp leaving some lacing on the glass. A splotchy wisp remains until the end leaving traces of lacing on the glass as it empties.

SMELL: Caramel and toffee with some spicy booze and red fruits on the nose. Slightly bread with bubble gum as well. Bold and boozy.

TASTE: Caramel and toffee sweetness up front with some spicy booze and piney notes up front. Bold finish of malty sweetness, piney hops, bitterness and some boozy alcohol too. Flavorful and plenty of bittersweet character.

PALATE: Medium body and medium levels of carbonation. Creamy on the palate, goes down fine and finishes somewhat mouth-coating. Some spicy booze lingers. Creamy and weighty for the style.

OVERALL: Really good stuff here. This reminds me of Laguintas’ Gnarleywine. Top notch flavor and feel here with lots of sweet malt character and hoppy bitterness as well. Really enjoyed this and will be picking up more next time I see it. Give this one a shot if you’re a fan of the style. Recommended.
Oct 30, 2016
 
Rated: 3.83 by Braz from Washington

Sep 05, 2016
 
Rated: 4.75 by TonyY from New York

Jul 31, 2016
 
Rated: 4.04 by BeerForMuscle from New Jersey

Mar 06, 2016
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Reviewed by d3davies from California

3.86/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
this was a 2011 model, it was a B+ in my opinion. it was more alcohol on the front than barrel aged goodness. lacked those toffee, vanilla, caramel notes you come to expect from a 4 year old bba
Jan 06, 2016
 
Rated: 3.48 by mrn1ceguy from Illinois

Dec 25, 2015
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Reviewed by ClavisAurea from New York

4.09/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
2013 vintage served in a snifter at cellar temps.

Appearance: deep garnet with a very sticky off white head that lingers. Lacing galore.

Nose: dark fruits, caramel, almost butterscotch, toffee, creamy and rich, chocolate, well integrated and balanced but still has some boozyness in there.

Taste: very chewy, toffee, dark fruits, Malt forward with some residual bitterness for balance. No hot alcohols at all but there is some booz on the tongue.

Overall: my only bottle. Need more. This is a fantastic English barleywine, not hot or solventy but the booz is still very present just not like what I'd expect from an 11% beer thats almost 2 years in the bottle.
Sep 25, 2015
 
Rated: 3.89 by VierBier from Netherlands

Aug 29, 2015
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Reviewed by Beerswag from California

3.51/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5
Dark brown with hints of ruby, slightly murky. Smell is roasted noted with chocolate. Taste is chocolate, roasted malt, carmel, no fruit notes. Mouthfeel is heavy, and abv is hidden. Getting some bourbon notes on the end. Pair with nuts, sausage, or lamb stew.
Aug 06, 2015
 
Rated: 4.08 by kornkid8600 from California

Jul 04, 2015
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Rated by Two40addict from California

4.47/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5
2011 was very well balanced and smooth.
Jun 30, 2015
 
Rated: 4.08 by vma from California

Jun 16, 2015
 
Rated: 3.84 by ucsbmullet from Colorado

May 22, 2015
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Rated by Noahtrumble

3.93/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4
Not a fan at all, to light for me
Apr 03, 2015
 
Rated: 3.75 by NickThePyro from Washington

Jan 10, 2015
 
Rated: 4 by JamFuel from Sweden

Dec 14, 2014
 
Rated: 3.5 by Fox82791 from New York

Nov 13, 2014
 
Rated: 4 by BillRoth from Maryland

Nov 09, 2014
 
Rated: 3.25 by zestar from California

Aug 08, 2014
 
Rated: 4.25 by GClarkage from California

Jul 08, 2014
 
Rated: 2 by ShanePB from Pennsylvania

May 08, 2014
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Reviewed by Mightykingmalard from California

4.03/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
13 vintage.

A: tan head, stays for a while. Very dark amber color. I love barleywines that are super dark. 3.75

S: sweet smelling, you smell the barrel. 3.75

T: only a hint of barrel in the taste, but it's awesome. Sometimes barleywines are too oaky, and this is a great barleywine with just that last good hint of wood. 4.25

M: great chewy mouthfeel for a barleywine. It's almost creamy. Leaves a great malty aftertaste. 4.

O: I had the 12 when it came out and have a couple saved. Can't wait to see where they, and this years, go in the future. 4.0
Mar 15, 2014
 
Rated: 3.75 by SeaAle from Oregon

Mar 08, 2014
 
Rated: 1.75 by sia478 from Washington

Feb 26, 2014
 
Rated: 4 by kaseydad from California

Feb 10, 2014
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Reviewed by BierJager89 from California

4.2/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25
A: Black with a tan ring of head.

S: Old malt, oak, vanilla, malt, dark fruit, red grapes, red wine, a touch of brandy in the nose.

T: Orange, lemon, grapefruit peel up front, followed by malt, then oak, vanilla, followed by red wine and red grapes with the borbon character and a touch of cognac and brandy in the finish.

M: Medium bodied and smooth, though the alcohol is a tad harsh.

O: I really like this beer. I'd love to try the Buffalo Trace version. It's perhaps a bit flat, but I feel like the alcohol astringency offsets that a bit, and like my beer smooth.
Jan 27, 2014
 
Rated: 4.25 by KevT from California

Jan 14, 2014
 
Rated: 3 by IrishColonial from Texas

Dec 06, 2013
 
Rated: 3.5 by billab914 from Virginia

Dec 06, 2013
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Reviewed by James_Lockhart from Australia

2.04/5  rDev -45.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1
I had this beer on tap after just getting into Barley Wines.

Everything appeared great until it hit my tongue.

It tastes like candy floss (fairy floss). That is literally it. I would have enjoyed this when I was 5, but as my palette has matured away from sugary sweet, to savory depth; I couldn't handle this, nor could anyone else.

This is the second beer I haven't been able to finish, and that's rare.
Nov 09, 2013
 
Rated: 3 by themathguy from California

Oct 04, 2013
Old And In The Way from High Water Brewing
Beer rating: 84 out of 100 with 66 ratings