Troublesome
Off Color Brewing

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Style:
Leipzig Gose
Ranked #373
ABV:
4.3%
Score:
86
Ranked #21,836
Avg:
3.83 | pDev: 12.27%
Reviews:
175
Ratings:
1,076
From:
Off Color Brewing
 
Illinois, United States
Avail:
Year-round
Wants
  56
Gots
  186
SCORE
86
Very Good
TroublesomeTroublesome
Notes: Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU
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Photo of Grounder
4.76/5  rDev +24.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Light golden yellow and clear, pours virtually without head, lightly carbonated. Taste is immediately lightly sour, followed by citrus and coriander. This is an outstanding summer beer that can be drunk year around.

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Photo of GuyFawkes
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Unknown vintage; drank 11/18/14 @ the Yarchives.

Murky dandelion hue.

White head; strong lace.

Dandelion & banana nose.

Medium thin mouthfeel.

Dandelion, mild lemon & a hint of fresh cut grass flavors; a mild honey sweetness emerges as this warms.

This would be a great summer sipper, but works as a fine session ale year round.

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.82/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Light gold in color with a light haziness. There’s a quarter inch of eggshell white on top. The aroma is of pale wheat and faint sea salt. I’m tasting pale wheat with a gentle dose of sea salt. The mouth is moderately salinic, dry, and crisp.

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Photo of brentk56
4.24/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: Arrives slightly hazy and goldenstraw colored with a creamy head that leaves a few shards behind

Smell: Sour wheat, lacto and coriander galore

Taste: The sour wheat aspect launches along with a touch of lemon; the coriander really builds, through the middle, with a hint of salt in the finish

Mouthfeel: Light bodied with moderate to high levels of carbonation

Overall: I like the taste of coriander and the way it blends with the tart wheat elements here makes for a satisfying and refreshing brew

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Photo of JoeWalsh
2.92/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This very pale, almost clear leipzig gose has only a modicum of flavor from the added coriander. But, if you're not a fan of that flavor, then this beer likely won't be the beer for you. I can take it or leave it; my wife, on the other hand, enjoys the flavor very much.

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Photo of Tsar_Riga
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pale gold, slightly hazy clear, minimal white head and no lacing.

S - Quiet sour grain, grass, funk, lactic acidity.

T - Follows the nose, stronger wheat flavors, undefined acidity, a hint of salt in the close.

M - Low carbonation, light feel, slightly tart finish.

O - Decent, well crafted Gose, quiet and unassuming, but tasty nevertheless.

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Photo of Glider
4.04/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First gose for me, so I wasn’t quite sure what to expect. Pours a cloudy straw gold with yeast sediment. First sip has a bit of tartness that leads into typical flavors of a witbier with the coriander quite apparent. Lemony, light-bodied, and a touch of salt is just barely apparent on the finish begging another sip. Very refreshing. Sourness and salt are both done with a light hand, and recede into the background as I continued drinking. Overall, I was a big fan of this beer.

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Photo of jhartley
4.09/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a Belgian style snifter. Enjoy by 02 Oct 17

Appearance: Dull golden yellow body with a minimal amount of head.

Aroma: Tart sourness on the nose with some apple and lemon.

Taste/Mouthfeel: Apples, strawberry tart lemon and salinity on this one, super light body, crisp and refreshing.

Overall: Fabulous beer from Off Color. Just a real subtle beer with decent flavor, this one has more salt than most gose style beers and is really well done with the other flavors that come out.

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Photo of Tone
3.69/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 1.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a clear gold color. 1/4 inch head of a white color. Slight retention and poor lacing. Smells of salt, wheat, slight yeast, hint of citrus hops, and floral notes. Fits the style of a Gose. Mouth feel is smooth and clean, with an average carbonation level and hint of tartness. Tastes of salt, wheat, slight yeast, slight lemon, hint of citrus hops, and floral notes. Overall, light bodied, good feel, and decent body.

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Photo of DrDemento456
3.94/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Was able to pick up a single for 3 bucks into a pint glass. Such a light yellow hazy watery beer with a 1/2 inch of frothy foam. Smells almost like a Wit with tones of coriander and lemon sourness. Taste is very approachable almost wheat ale like with sour lemon and coriander and a finish of mild salt. Body is awesome it's light but not watery very tasty.

Overall a bit different from the sour latent and heavy salt offerings of the gose style this would actually be a very good start to the style. Very surprised.

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Photo of Lone_Freighter
4.19/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

This was poured into a stange. The appearance was a slight hazy golden yellow color with a slight transparency to it. Fast carbonation was seen rising to try to fill a one finger soft white foamy head that dissipated to a quarter finger’s worth. The smell was slightly earthy with a sweet vaporous lemon, light graininess/wheat, light coriander, light grape comes through as it warms. The taste was sweet through the wheat and a light lemon and grape combining and then letting in that coriander spice to balance. The salt is there but extremely mild. On the palate, this one sat pretty light and came across extremely sessionable. My tongue does end up feeling a slight sharpness most likely due to the salt but it could also be from the wheat. Overall, a very well done Gose well worthy of having again.

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Photo of Baumer
4.18/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

very pale yellow in appearance with a slight haze. Nice lacing, very appealing in appearance. great smell, slightly acidic, fruits, smells a little bit funky. makes me want to take a drink for sure. oh wow, perfect blend of wheat and funk. Totally lacks the usual ouch associated with sours. This beer has the tart taste up front, but it quickly recedes and gives way to wheat. I like this a lot! Also, has a lot more salt than I expected. Almost tastes straight up salty. The salt balances really nicely against the tart. really ace job on this one. light to medium body. quick finish. excellent carbonation. this is a thirst quencher. Very impressed with this beer overall. I have not had many goses, but this beer makes me think i should sample the varietal a bit more intensely. high marks all around.

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Photo of chicagobeerguy
4.23/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

L: A nice off pearl, light honey, cloudy beer, no head

S: Grapefruit zest, citrusy, acidic, smell radiates from glass

T: Nice zesty citrusy, salty and sweet taste. Tart cactus and grapefruit.

F: A full bodied Gose with good carb and a nice finish. Would like slightly more carb.

O: A great Gose that checks all the boxes.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.09/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle into a Surly teku. Shared by schen9303.

Bright goldenrod with a huge fluffy head and excellent lace. Perfect. The nose is bright and prickly. Hints of coriander, peppercorn, lemon zest and cane sugar. More saison than gose. Beer opens moderately funky and bready. Hints of coriander and peppercorn spice with a light citrus tartness. Drinkable and a fluffy foam flavor. Body is light with ample carbonation. Prickly but frothy on the palate and quenching and wet going down.

Pretty good. Again, more saison than gose but pretty solid nevertheless.

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Photo of Xamonline
4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12oz Bottle, Chicago, IL, Served in a stange

L: very clear and transparent; Yellow with a tint of orange; small head and med. effervescence

S: lemon

T: slight tart that ends with light citrus

M: a little creamy; medium body

O: a beer that has many great qualities that you don't often get in one package

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Photo of SomethingClever
3.94/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

12 Oz pour into a wine glass

A; light tight small bubbled head. Body is a good clarity light yellow gold.

S: Nose has a ton of citrus and coriander some lemon and a little funk.

T: Very light sweetness followed by some orange tangerine a little honey a light bit of funk

M: Creamy smooth a little to the fuller side.

O: it's an odd Gose. It drinks more like a sweet heavy bodied Saison. It is still a great beer but not what I was expecting.

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Photo of Cylinsier
3.92/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12 oz

Pours a slightly hazy lemon gold, white lacing for a head.

Smells of tart apple and lemon with saltine cracker malt.

Flavor is of citrus, apple, banana and light bready malts. Hint of sea salt in the finish.

Light body with light tingly carbonation on the roof of the mouth.

Tasty tart wheat beer, good flavor. Drinks very easy and very sessionable. Tartness is mild. Worth a try for fans of sour and wheat beers. This is very wheat forward for a sour and tastes like a hybrid of sour and hefeweissen.

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Photo of Frazz
4.71/5  rDev +23%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

This beer is what turned me on to goses and sours in general, so I have a very special place in my heart for it. Funky, sour, salty, spicy -- it has a little bit of everything flavor-wise. The color is nice and bright golden and the aroma is sweet and sour, a hint of what's to come. Of all of the goses I've had, this one is still my old standby. You can't go wrong with a Troublesome.

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Photo of MartinGood
4.55/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Loved the tart, fruity flavors and lighter body. The coriander notes went perfectly with the Jamaican Lamb Curry I for dinner. Good fall beer, nice alternative to all the pumpkin ( I like that too) out there.

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Photo of mmmbeer89
1.8/5  rDev -53%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 1.75

Maybe this is a good beer for its style as I haven't had too many goses but I liked the other ones better than this one. The flavor is just not good at all.

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Photo of BloodSoakedAleMug
4.18/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Look: Poured aggressively into a pint glass. A slightly translucent yet paradoxically hazy straw yellow color beer with a two finger satin white head. Excellent lacing.

Smell: Bananas, coriander, clove and Italian parsley. Slight notes of sour lemon rind and salt in the background.

Taste: Sour with flavors of bubblegum and bananas. Mild white grape and lemon flavor. Very very mild soapy but pleasant notes of cilantro and clove in the background. Salt is barely perceptible. Creamy on the finish.

Feel: Refreshingly tart, yeasty and dry with notes of spicy, soapy coriander.

Overall: A yeasty, refreshing gose.

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Photo of projektyle
3.56/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Introduction to the style at a place in O'Hare airport. Definitely taste of coriander and salt/brine. I don't know that I will go out of my way to find beers in this style, but my understanding is that it is a good representative.

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Photo of SaltofOH
3.69/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Bottle, no date as far as I can tell. DFH Tulip.

A: pours a slightly hazy bright yellow with 3 fingers white head that slowly fades to a thick ring around the edges. Some lazy carbonation, not much lacing. Love the bottle art and that they give you ABV, Gravity, IBU, malt, hop, and additive ingredients clearly. Wish not had a date.

S: wheaty and slightly sour.

T: lightly tart arrival, a little funky and refreshing. Mid palate is fizzy and mild, with a little lemon, then a lot of complexity all at the end: dough, spice, salt, mild lactic tartness turning to a lingering lemon peel.

M: quite light with a little slickness; more active carbonation on the tinge than anticipated.

O: I'm not a huge Gose fan, but this is probably the best one I've had.

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Photo of KTCamm
3.76/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

7/7...pours pale yellow, translucent haze, with a touch of white foam. Strong citrus nose, salt water. Lemony wheat flavor, citrus wheat, straw. Spice hints come through, pepper and coriander. Sweet and salty flavor, all at once. Very creative.

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Photo of thepenguin
4.23/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

L: Pours a clear pale yellow-gold with better foam retention than most kettle sours.

S: Moderate tartness and salinity, with coriander and yeast notes. Dry bready pilsner malt and wheat.

T: Crisp German pilsner malt with some wheat character. Barely perceptible tartness, with a nice moderate saltiness that cuts through and adds drinkability. Hints of lemons, with a short, crisp, mildly bready finish

F: Just under medium bodied with a slight chewiness, and ample carbonation with small bubbles. Fuller feel than most goses, though hardly detracting from the drinkability.

Thoughts: This is not an in-your-face gose; it’s subtle and very balanced. In many ways, it registers more like a Kolsch than a gose with its clean finish and pronounced pilsner malt character.

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Beer rating: 86 out of 100 with 1076 ratings