Phantasma Sour
OEC Brewing (Ordinem Ecentrici Coctores)

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American Wild Ale
Ranked #817
Ranked #6,465
4.07 | pDev: 7.37%
OEC Brewing (Ordinem Ecentrici Coctores)
Connecticut, United States
Notes: Sour Edition - Old style German Porter, brewed with wheat, oats, molasses and licorice root. Blended, 60% oak age ale, 40% young ale.

Blend #1 - 04/22/2014
Blend #2 - 04/14/2015
Reviews: 13 | Ratings: 94 | Log in to view all ratings and sort
Photo of REVZEB
4.21/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Had on tap. Was a little wary with the whole "porter-sour" combo, but this did a fantastic job of being true to the porter backbone flavor and feel, while adding waves of oak and fruity sour flavors. Plum, raisin, cherry, oak, licorice, grapes, grains and malts all are present and it blend together to make a full feeling sour.

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Photo of LAp
4.6/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Absolutely brilliant. The best amalgam of stout and sour I've encountered thus far (better even than Tart of Darkness from The Bruery). Earthy sour blends beautifully with an understated stout backbone.

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Photo of nebula1999
4.2/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Blend #2.
Filled 9/12/15
Consumed 3/14/16
Big tan head overtop a dark brown liquid.
Aroma is ...sweet modelling glue! But in a good way.
Taste is similar but there's a dark fruit element to it.
Mouthfeel is sharp and cuts the back of my throat with each sip.
Loved it.

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Photo of Tracs
4.59/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

A: black and just barely translucent. Tan head fades quickly to surface lacing. S: typical sour musty-ness, hits of leather and wine. T: exceptional. Sharp sour beer up front followed by complex flavor profile of licorice, leather, and something else bitter in a nice herbal way. Despite the generally bitter flavor profile the finish is pretty smooth. M: thick and viscous, sticks to your tongue (his is relative to other sours, it is lighter than your average imperial stout). Small sharp carbonation that lasts well. O: Overall my favorite offering from OEC and my favorite new world sour. Incredibly complex. As a usual stout and IPA drinker I'm not sure if I'm the best judge but this is good beer. I'm only sad that I cracked this growler on a random Tuesday and didn't save it for a special occasion.

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Photo of cbutova
4.04/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to Stevie Gula.

A- Black body to a tulip with a off white foamy cap to just over a finger. Decent retention and as it falls webs of lacing form fairly plentifully. A few webs of lace.

S- Sourness off the top for the most part, almost all lactic with a touch of vinegar but only a tiny bit. A touch of roast but its smoothed out and not at all sweet or dessert-esque. Tar cherries and lemons.

T- Mostly the sours once again with super intense lactic acid and further on some acetic raspberry vinaigrette type feel. Lemons, wet medium toast oak, tart pie cherry and raisin dark fruits, a touch of licorice and toasted nuts.

MF- Very dried out body which comes in at a light-medium overall feel. High end carbonation and a touch foamy. Ends rather sour.

Deceiving for 9.5%, actually pretty insane as it comes in like a very sour dark session brew almost, must be some blending skills at play. Somewhat slick.

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Photo of Cannabanoid
4.85/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Phantastic. This is the best dark sour I have tasted. So much complexity. Not overpoweringly sour. A sweet molasses/brown sugar note lingers. To sum this beer up into one word.WOW! I can't wait to go back to OEC to stock up on this one.

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Photo of nobes341
4.64/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 5

A - Pours a deep brown with a translucent Rim. Effervescent and bubbly but no head retention. Dark brown foam dissipates quickly.

S - Roasty, Tart, Sweet, slightly fruity. Reminds me of a Flemish sour like Monk's Cafe.

M - Like drinking vapor, very little mouthfeel present. It doesn't foam, it just feels light as air on intake. Slightly slick.

T - Tart, Chocolaty, subdued roasted malt, very Flemish sour like - cherry taste, tart and slightly sweet. The tart and sweet flavor is reminiscent of sour grape skins. It drys the mouth.

O - This is truly one of the best beers I have ever tasted. It is incredibly complex without being a flavor punch to the mouth. I would love to drink this beer again and again.

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Photo of VelvetExtract
3.48/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

EBF sample. Pours a dark, brackish brown color. Looks flat. Smells of dark, soured malt. Cola. Cherry. Caramel. Flavor is mostly sour. Some underlying roast and sweetness. Sour cherry cola. Says its brewed with licorice root and looking back I do remember there being a sort of black licorice flavor. Almost like a Flanders Oud Bruin. Just a light hint of oak. Sticky feel. Body is rather full and slick. Low carbonation. This one just didn't hit home with me.

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Photo of jlindros
3.59/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another one from Andy.

Aggressive pour yields a big fluffy head that fades slowly, nice lacing, dark almost black beer.

Nose nice sour cherry and black malt, tart cherry funk and chewy , little tart cherry and choc covered version.

Taste sweet brown malts, chewy cherry and tart cherry, fruity thing, syrupy sweet cherry syrup candy, dark malts, caramel almost choc, light choc covered cherry, little acidic flemmy thing. Finish sticky stout flemmy etc.

Mouth creamy sticky flemmy sour, decent carb, light booze warmth.

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Photo of rudzud
3.64/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to Andy for sharing this beer.

A - Poured into a Kate the Great tulip a nice dark brown hue with a thin wisps with a light halo.

S - Aromas of phenols, faint molasses, touches of barrel. Somewhat sour and tart, which I don't think was intentional.

T - Taste is licorice sour cherries, faint barrels, light chocolate, dark fruits, faint funk. Really neat, but a bit too funky of a porter for my tastes.

M - Mouthfeel is lightly carbonated, flemmy.

O - Overall this beer was a mixture of sour cherries and darker fruit. Not bad but not my style.

Serving type: Growler

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Photo of Jwale73
4.17/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

750ml growler served in a tulip. Pours one shade shy of black with a tight, half inch, tan-colored head. Nose is vinous with a trace of balsamic vinegar. Taste is quite interesting and complex - vinous, tart and a hint of lactic acid. There's also a suggestion of the oak barrel. Mouthfeel is light-medium with a carbonation that falls shy of lively and a pleasant acidity that lightly stimulates the salivary glands. Overall - not sure why this is classified as a baltic porter - seems closer to a dark sour and is somewhat akin to a Russian River dark sour in my humble opinion. Top notch, nonetheless.

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Photo of dar482
4.7/5  rDev +15.5%

The beer comes in a dense copper brown color.

The beer is one of the better examples of a new personal favorite style, sour porters. Upfront, dark tart cherries towards a flanders brown. Rich fruit qualities and slight candy and brown sugar sweetness. Reasonably tart, but then the beer gently cuts off with a medium roasted malt and chocolate quality.

No sense of the beer being 9.5% and it is dangerously drinkable as I could've slammed the entire growler.

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Photo of sulldaddy
4.26/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I am sampling a cold 750 ml bottle poured into a snifter. I picked up the bottle at the grand opening and have had it in the fridge since that day.
The beer pours a rich chocolate brown color with fluffy beige head that foams up 3 cm even with a gentle pour.
The aroma is chocolate malt and brown sugar but tart cherry comes through strongly and reminds me that this isnt just a baltic porter.
First sip reveals a smooth textured beer with very fine tingly carbonation that is prickly on my palate after each sip.
The flavor is chocolate malt and some brown sugar but finishes with strong tart cherry notes maybe some other dark fruit as well. Quite a nice complex beer with the blend. No hints of the alcohol and hops make no showing on this beer either. this is worth trying if you like either baltic porters or sour ales.
Good showing from the new guys in Connecticut.

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Phantasma Sour from OEC Brewing (Ordinem Ecentrici Coctores)
Beer rating: 91 out of 100 with 94 ratings