Cup O Kyndnes
Brewery Ommegang

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Scottish Ale
3.85 | pDev: 11.43%
Brewery Ommegang
New York, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
Very Good
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Notes: The Belgian-Scotch brewing connection dates to WWI, when thousands of Scotsmen spent years in Belgium. To satisfy the new customers, Belgian brewers learned to brew lighter "Scotch" style ales. This fine Ommegang ale uses heather tips and a wee bit of smoked malt to bring the taste and aroma of Scotland to the forefront. "Malty, full body, dark, slightly smoky, with heather notes. Flavorful and aromatic, with a gentle complexity and easy-going finish."
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Reviews: 169 | Ratings: 241
Photo of Beer-Revelry
3.72/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A - Pours an incredibly murky dark brown with touches of dark ruby. Forms a half finger of quickly dissipating light tan head.
S - Literally smells like you mixed a high quality Belgian tripel or quad with a scotch ale.
T - Exactly as it smells.
O - A damned good and interesting take on the scotch style. V - Good.

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Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 8/2/2010. Pours lightly hazy dark brick red color with a nice 1-2 finger dense light khaki head with great retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings to the glass. Aromas of big molasses, raisin, toffee, toast, caramel, chocolate, pepper, earth, clove, floral, and yeast spiciness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity. Taste of raisin, pear, molasses, toffee, toast, chocolate, biscuit, caramel, nuttiness, pepper, earth, floral, and yeast spiciness. Lingering notes of raisin, molasses, toffee, toast, chocolate, nuttiness, pepper, and earth on the finish for a good bit. Great complexity and balance of flavors that are nicely robust; zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with almost zero warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is an excellent scotch ale with a Belgian twist. Very well balanced, robust, and complex; very smooth to sip on. Really enjoyed this one. Glad I was finally able to try it.

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Photo of kylehay2004
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Single finger head with scattered lacing in a murky amber body. Nice lacing. Aroma is toffee, caramel, candy sugar and sour cherry. Flavor follows with cherry, caramel malts, candy sugar and toasted malts. Mollasses and toffee late in the finish. Medium body and moderate carbonation. Nice maltiness for the style. Light on the hops. A few surprise notes for the style.

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Photo of WastingFreetime
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from tasting notes.

Hazy darker brown color, one and a half fingers of foam that lasts for about a minute, leaving minimal lacing behind on the inner surface of the glass. Smells of caramel, toffee, milk chocolate, and just a garnish level touch of peat smoke. Flavor contains all of these elements and also a medium strength nutty element and some suggestions of plums... Body is smooth and silky, medium carbonation. If I had to criticize something, it would be that I had a hard time finding the Heather promised within. It only appeared as a ghostly faint presence once allowed to warm up.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a dimple mug)

A- This beer has a hazy pecan brown body with a sea of microbubbles pushing to the surface with a slightly sticky light tan meniscus of foam.

S- The pot caramel melanoidin aroma with nougat notes has some peat smoke hints in the finish.

T- The slightly bright tartness has a tang to it that blends with pot caramel and dry toffee and cardboard hints. There is a watery taste that grows as the beer warms and the finish has a smoky band-aid hint in the background that hangs on after each sip.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a full texture on the tongue and no alcohol heat.

O- The tangy flavor and malt with peat and band-aids is a bit off putting and the malt is nice full but a bit too dry to really show of the malt flavor.

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.53/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Fills a pint glass dark old copper with clear, ruby iridescence and boiling carbonation. A creamy four fingers of almond foam builds for a long while, ultimately leaving thick patches of lace.

The aroma is equal parts malt and yeast with a suggestion of band-aids. Barnyard aromas try to come out, as do coriander and ginger.

Contains the flavors of caramelized sugar, sweet iced coffee and light bitterness with a lingering astringency in the finish. Oddy, there is a suggestion of shortbread as well.

Slick texture and medium body with shockingly little carbonation given the pour. Cup O Kyndnes is dry and almost chalky.

This beer needs food such as pasta with tomato sauce.

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Photo of RoyalT
2.95/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance – This is brown with orangish highlights around the edges and a soft, creamy, modest head.

Smell – There is a touch of scotch to this nose along with some wood and a hint of smokiness. I get some fruits, maybe mashed prunes, and a big raw sugar aroma. This is a sweet one.

Taste – The smoke is a bit bigger at the taste. It’s not overpowering but if you don’t like smoky beer don’t buy this. The sugar turns to candy and somehow there’s a zing of alcohol.

Mouthfeel – This doesn’t rate medium-bodied and is a bit on the watery side.

Drinkability – I love this brewery but am unsure as to what they were trying to accomplish here. Is this supposed to be a light, easy-drinking Scottish Ale? Then how about smoothing things out and lose the smoke. This isn’t a bad beer, just confusing.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.18/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

ruby amber with a nice clarity to it and adequate carbonation visible trickling up from the bottom of the glass. This gathered at the top and combined to form a delicate head

nice delicate notes of nuts and caramel were mixed and intertwined with a deeply rooted grain filled back. This was a malt monster for sure as the only thing that was easily picked up through all this was the dark roasted malts that made up the majority of it. nice bit of caramel and sweetness right from the start and this really never faded as any other flavors that were here simply mingled and swirled around this. There were hints of roasted nuts as well

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Photo of mrfrancis
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark, ruby-tinted amber with a billowing white head that lasts for quite some time.

S: There is a pleasant combination of peat, molasses, heather, and cider apple aromas on the nose. Obviously, this is going to be a malt-driven ale.

T: Opens in a surprisingly fruity, floral fashion with heather tip, spiced pear, and cider apple flavors being most pronounced. Around mid-palate, notes of chocolate, peat, heavy cream, and molasses briefly come into focus. The finish is mellow, gentle, and a bit warming with heather, apple, and peat notes being most noticeable.

M: This ale is rather full bodied and dry, though it is still smooth in the mouth. Carbonation is spritzier than expected. It probably needs to be toned down slightly, but is not all that troublesome.

O: This is another impressive ale from Ommegang. I think it would be especially nice on a snowy evening. I do feel, however, that the flavors could stand to be a little better integrated and that the carbonation could be reigned in a bit. In my opinion, these minor tweaks would make what is already a very good, very interesting ale an absolute knockout.

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Photo of drpimento
3.81/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I let this bottle warm a bit first out of the fridge. Then it poured with a huge, light tan, very frothy, foamy, fluffy head that settles down and a little lace. Color is a very clear amber red with some slow large bubble trails. Aroma is on the mild side - beery, malt, roast, hint of peat. Flavor is similar to nose with the sweet peat up front the a little bitter n tang. Body seems a touch thin to me, ditto carbonation. Finish is like flavor, fairly clean and balance; easy to drink. Good beer for some repeats.

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Photo of LadyOfMuchBeer
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750ml bottle, split between 2 stemless red wine glasses. Nice loud pop of cork.
Pours with a nice 1/2" head, fades quick. High carbonation. Clear, deep, dark red in color. Smells like a sweet red wine. Berries, and booze, like red licorice and cotton candy sugary aroma. First sip carries over sparkling grape juice and scotch. Fruits get more bitter as it warms like cassis berries or pomegranate. Best quality is the undertones of spicy wood on the tongue.
Feels very watery.
Not bad, but for Ommegang, definitely not one of their best, was much better before it started warming.

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Photo of MsRif
3.88/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had from a bottle. Poured a reddish brown color with a nice white head that retained well. Small amounts of lacing. Aroma was sweet, earthy...a bit of of a raisin smell as well. Toasty. Tasted of cherries, toffee, spices, sweetness and raisins. Well-balanced, but each flavor was minimal for the most part...could have been more complex. Perhaps TOO blended in flavor.

Medium mouthfeel with light carbonation. Drinkable, but I wouldn't have it again. One bottle was good enough!

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Photo of rapidsequence
3.02/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750 ml corked and caged bottle. $10.49 from Beer Run. Bottled 8/2/10, Best by 8/2012.

Appearance: Muddy reddish brown with a fluffy whitish head and attractive lacing. I'm assuming the haze will clear as it warms.

Smell: Smoke, earth, caramel, spice, herbs, maybe leather. There's a distinctive smell of Belgian yeast, but not a lot of fruity esters. Some phenolics-- a little clove maybe. Kinda weird.

Taste: Pretty smoky and caramel malty. Pretty pronounced bandaid flavor that obviously is not good. I havent had heather before knowingly-- there is a bitter spiciness to this beer that I blame on the heather. Not very good.

Mouthfeel: Pretty nice actually. Soft, nicely carbed. Slick and slightly sticky.

Overall: Not too great. Weird flavors, bad combinations.

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Photo of Beer4Baltimore
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

- from the notes and a bomber bottle
A - dark rich clear brown with a finger of head and some lacing.
S - a sweet and ever so slight smoky aroma.
T - malty sweet with a mostly sweet finish despite touch of bitter.
M - syrupy thick feeling.
D - not tremendous but not bad either.

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Photo of illidurit
3.93/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at burger. in Santa Cruz. Pours a deep clear brown with almost ruby corners. Creamy tan head leaves sheets of lacing. Smokey boozy aroma with sea salt, light meatiness, peat, dark fruits, and cheetos? Flavor is smooth and smokey, light chocolate notes, dried figs. Great mouthfeel, creamy and smooth, full-bodied with an almost nitro-esque carbonation. Satisfying and tasty.

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Photo of zaphodchak
3.73/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1 finger off-white head, dark hazy ruddy amber body. Retains and laces decently.

Slightly musty nose, some dark funk which seemed misplaced.

Apple, perhaps pear, with some scotchy malt but unexpectedly tart for a Scotch style. Some white grape. Some honey?

Average mouthfeel, undercarbonated.

Decent, but not great.

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Photo of nhindian
3.95/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml poured into an Ommegang chalice.

A - Pours a deep, dark red with a cloudy, floating haze in the middle of the glass. To the sides and beneath this haze, however, is a nice clarity. About 2-fingers of tan head on this beer with good retention. A good bit of carbonation can be see rising from the etched bottom of the glass. Lacing is very good and nearly covers the entire glass.

S - The nose on this is nice with subtle complexities dancing around. I am getting the Scottish influence first, with a bit of the heather, caramel, and malt sweetness. Then the Belgian influence comes in through the yeast, giving it an enjoyable dichotomy. Some fruits and candied sugar make up the back-end of the nose.

T - This 'blend' of styles gives the flavor an interesting spin that I found myself liking quite a bit. As in the nose, the flavor starts with some malt sweetness, this time imparting a 'wee bit' of smokiness, like a kiss from the Islay region of Scotland. The heather as well is subtle but noticeable. From there the Belgian yeast comes through and prevails throughout the finish, bringing some spice, breadiness, and sugary fruits, especially apples and raisins. The finish is sweet and somewhat bitter.

M - Mouthfeel is medium-bodied with good carbonation. Relatively full-bodied with a smooth edge to it. Somewhat dry finish.

D/O - Drinkability is moderately high. The Belgian side of this beer adds a creative new angle to the Scottish side, while also cutting down on the malt sweetness and caramel. Easily drinkable and inoffensive, I enjoyed my time with this beer.

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Photo of Buggies
4.12/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

What a nice complex beer.

Pours a murky brown with a huge fluffy tan head. Big aromas of Belgian yeast... with spice and cherries in there. Maybe a hint of caramel. The heather comes through as it warms a little. There is also a delicate smokiness that I missed initially. But like the heather, it makes its presence as the beer warms.

Again, the yeast dominates the palate. Fruity and spicy upfront. As that fades, you're left with some nice malty flavors. Nice lingering bitterness from the dark roasted grains and hops

Tastes great to me. Perhaps just a little too sticky on the mouth with a little residual sweetness. But a great tasting beer no doubt.

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Photo of 51mmz0rz
3.95/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750mL bottle into my trusty 0.5L Duvel tulip.

A: Medium tan head, dense bubbles with good retention. Opaque brown body, a little murky, mysterious.

S: Belgian yeast aromatics are prevalent. Seems to be a dark malty sweetness in the background. Slight burnt/smoky notes.

T: Malty and fairly bright, with less yeast flavor than expected. Leaves dark malt flavors and perfect bitterness on the finish.

M: Big mouthfeel, slightly overcarbed.

O: Solid, a lot of things to balance here and it does a fairly good job. Beer ends up nice and drinkable, but not particularly memorable.

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Photo of beer2day
3.98/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Nice rich brown pour with hints of orange. Frothy 2+ finger head, even with a gentle pour. Rings of lace down the front side of the glass. Very nice retention.

Nice mix of Belgian yeast and scotch ale peat. A little stronger on the yeast side. Candy sugar and light cherries round things out.

Fairly light peat flavor with lots of Belgian malt in the finish. Getting a bit of dried fruit in the finish, too. Definitely more Belgian than Scotch.

Very thick feel for what I expected.

Overall, glad I tried it and I think they hit their mark - just not one I'd get again. Thickness and stronger Belgian flavors just don't do it for me in a Scotch ale.

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Photo of scottfrie
4.03/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle into 25oz snifter.

A: Pours an extremely dark reddish-brown with a huge, fluffy, light tan head that took forever to fade into a really thick yet soft layer that left great streaks of lacing down the glass.
S: The first thing I notice is the smoked malt. This beer definitely has a whiff of smoke to it. It’s also very herbal smelling, presumably from the heather tips, although I have no idea what the plant smells like. I can say that I don’t smell any hops though. I do pick up some dark fruits as well as a good dose of ambiguous spices.
T: Follows the nose with a delicate smoky, fruity and herbal flavor. There is a dash of sweet caramel and apple juice, and I’m also picking up some kind of nuttiness. Dark breast crust and Belgian yeast are apparent as well. Not as bold or as sweet as expected, but flavors are really enjoyable all around.
M: Medium body with ample and airy carbonation that froths up on my palate. Mouthfeel is slick and soft with a drying finish.
O: A really satisfying beer. It’s reasonable enough in flavor and alcohol for me to enjoy this 750ml bottle by myself. I was avoiding this one in my cellar for a while since I’m not a huge fan of the style, which makes this pleasant surprise even better.

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Photo of warnerry
3.53/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a clear red-tinged brown with tow fingers of thick, creamy head. Leaves a nice trail of lacing behind.

S - Aroma is slightly spicy smelling malts. I guess it is some heather I am smelling. There is also a subtle sweetness in the smell.

T - Malt character is actually somewhat light for a Scotch ale. There is abundant earthy bitterness that is balanced by a brightness from the spicing. Hops become more apparent on the finish. Finishes with a lingering earthiness.

M - Medium mouthfeel with lingering earthy dryness.

O - I did enjoy this, but the earthy taste became overwhelming after awhile. Even with the moderate abv, best to split this a few ways.

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Photo of Knapp85
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was very excited to try this brew, I couldn't wait to see how Ommegang was gonna brew up a Scottish Ale. I feel they did a pretty nice job on it. The beer poured out as a deep amber color, with a thick foamy tan head. The lacing was decent on the glass. The smell of the beer was very malty and had a bit of peat and earth in there. Totally different than all of Ommegang's other releases. The taste of the beer has a solid malt body to it with some earth in the aftertaste. The mouthfeel is thick and smooth. Overall I enjoyed the beer quite a bit. I would drink this one again.

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Photo of MadCat
4.2/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased October 2010, so its go a bit of age on it.

Appearance: Brown with good tan head that lasts for a while and leaves good lacing

Smell: Caramely and chocolatey malts, with a soft smokiness of heather, which is present but not overwhelming

Taste: A soft smokey heather flavor is the first thing to notice, along with caramel and chocolate. Earthy, roasty, and smokey, with some fruit hiding in there, it is a bit more unique than most brews. Very well balanced.

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body, good carbonation, very smooth

Overall: A very good brew, not too complex though. I wish it was regular production at a price similar to their other regular production brews. Not the most special for a limited, pricey brew. Also a note, many brews mention Belgian yeast flavors, and I don't pick any in particular out. Not sure why though.

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Photo of shanblur
3.35/5  rDev -13%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at taco mac perimeter in Atlanta. Served in a goblet.

A - Reddish brown with a small amount of light tan foam.
Almost no lacing to speak of with a thin line of foam at the top
of the beer maintained
S - Toasted malts predominate with some hints of caramel
T - Taste is better than the smell which improved as the beer
warmed. Toasted malts again with some caramel notes
and a nice alcohol warmth on the finish
M - Thin on the mouthfeel with a nice light carbonation

Not my favorite from this brewery but still quite enjoyable

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Cup O Kyndnes from Brewery Ommegang
Beer rating: 86 out of 100 with 241 ratings