Saxer JackFrost Winter Doppelbock
Saxer Brewing Company / Nor'Wester Beer Company

Saxer JackFrost Winter DoppelbockSaxer JackFrost Winter Doppelbock
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Style:
Bock - Doppelbock
ABV:
8%
Score:
82
Avg:
3.38 | pDev: 14.79%
Reviews:
31
Ratings:
33
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Saxer Brewing Company / Nor'Wester Beer Company
 
Oregon, United States
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Retired (no longer brewed)
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Reviews by jtw5877:
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jtw5877 from Ohio

3.8/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I really enjoyed this nice example of a doppelbock, although it kind of reminds me of a scottish ale. This beer pours a nice rubyish brown hue with a whitish tan head. Nice smooth malty profile with hints of biscuits and caramel. A real surprise to see this stuff at my grocery store nice smooth brew with an 8.0 kick.

Nov 15, 2003
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BKotch from Texas

4.14/5  rDev +22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first experience with this brewery, and a darn good American doppelbock. A trace light in color for the style, but it has decent head retention and a nice fruity/malty nose and palate. The flavors are really well integrated and the 8% alcohol by volume is very well disguised. Very drinkable. In my opinion, American brewers don't fare real well when it comes to lagers, but more from Saxer and that opinion could change very quickly.

Jan 13, 2002
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Murph from Arizona

3.72/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a light amber with a nice creamy head on it that sticks. Alcohol and chewy sweet malt in the nose. Sweet malt and caramel are present as well as a slight alcohol warming presence in the taste. Sticky, cloying mouthfeel but I found this to be very drinkable for the style. Although it doesn't lack in strength it is a bit thin in the body. The taste is pretty much on but just not as intense and full as I expect from a doppel. I thought this was more drinkable than several better tasting Doppels just because the body is a little lighter. Regardless, I was very happy after finding this on sale for $4.95 a sixer at Vintage Cellar (winter ale clearance sale, all nice strong stuff that is sure to still be good.)

Apr 12, 2002
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marc77 from California

2.93/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

Ruddy garnet hue, w/ a slight haze. Well retained creamy vanilla tinged creamy head leaves lace. Surprisingly pronounced floral noble hop nose dominates the aroma, with mild toasty Munich and caramel malt secondary. Subtle nuttiness surfaces as the beer breathes. Fairly prosaic aromawise. Caramel malt sweetness initially in flavor yields to a thin bready, lighted toasted malt presence which is then partially offset by mild, functional hop bitterness. Faint herbal hop flavor. Berryish fruit undertone. Lightly bodied, w/ an insipidly thin mouthfeel. Finishes with a brief melaniodin snap, but otherwise clean and watery. A most unimpressive doppelbock. JackFrost has no outright flaws, it's just approaching bland in overall character. The thinnish feel lends a pseudo-quaffability that could become dangerous, however.

Mar 04, 2003
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beerguy101 from California

3.46/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Red color, medium head. Aroma is fruity, spicy and sweet. Rich malt flavor, nicely hopped. Good balance. Fully smooth mouthfeel. Lingering malt sweetness. 8% alcohol but no alcohol bite. Really nice beer. Finish is very smooth. Aftertaste is malty, some sweetness, slight bitterness

Sep 21, 2003
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beernut7 from Massachusetts

3.76/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is, I think, the first winter bock I have had and I am pleasantly surprised. Deep amber color with a frothy tan head. The aroma is almost nil with a light metallic quality. The initial flavor is of a deep caramel malt supported by a smooth heavier body. A subtle bitterness lends a quality balance to the brew, but the malts take the show. Warming and tasty.

Mar 08, 2003
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maxpower from Missouri

3.03/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Clear light amber-copper color with a nice foamy lasting white head with some lacing. Has a sweet fruity and nutty aroma. Sweet and malty roasty caramel flavors very sweet in the finish, medium body with a slick and smooth mouthfeel, alcohol well hidden, very drinkable for being 8%.

Jan 03, 2004
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bmills1608 from Pennsylvania

3.78/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Color was a real deep and nice ruby amber. Clarity was excellent. Head was small on very light tan in color. Nose was heaped with thick and sweet German style malts, caramel, candy sugar and apples. A very inviting nose, especially appealing to lovers of malt.

Taste was full, rich and sweet, with most of the same flavors prevalent in the nose. Very malty and tons of caramel, with dark dried fruits, very little hop presence. The must be there or it would be over the top sweet, but you really can't detect them, they are there only to support the malt attack. The alcohol helps cut the sweet as it creeps in at the end.

Finish was long and malty with flavors of rock candy as well.

A very pleasant winter sipping beer. Take your time and enjoy this one.

Mar 20, 2003
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cokes from Wisconsin

1.96/5  rDev -42%
look: 2.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3.5

Auburn hued, inching towards orange. Beige cream sits on top. And, for a moment, it stays there. It doesn't look ugly; it looks false. And it is

The nose is void and vacant of almost any distiguishing feature, aside from a tinny metallic quality and traces of caramel malt.

Enters the mouth...or does it? It is difficult to tell since it leaves no impression whatsoever. Hollow toffee traits, mixed with phantoms of pears. Lightly toasty too. But I'm really digging to find things to say. Lightly Germanic hop closure. Turns more tea-like at room temp. Not even boozy.

I'm giving this too many words.
There is literally nothing, NOTHING, here.

Features a consistency of heavily watered-down syrup. It salvages itself slightly in sheer mindless drinkability. If this was a Munich Dunkel lager, I'd still have the same complaints.

How can an 8% doppelbock seem dilute? How can it be so absent of malt? And so flavorless?

How can it suck so fucking bad?

This makes Leinie's Big Butt Doppelbock look like Korbinian, or Optimator, or Celebrator.
Or all three rolled into one, then multiplied by Autumnal Fire.

Save your money. I beg you.

Boo.
Hiss.

I've never been so angry about a beer in my life.
I hate you, JackFrost.

What a farce, this is.
What a joke.

Dec 28, 2003
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jackndan from Illinois

3.05/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Saxer Jackfrost: A typical double bock, not untasty, but fairly average. Light brown color, very clear when held up to the light. Not much head, but what it has had was light tan, and a little sticky. The aroma is again typical of a double bock, raisony, a slight bite of alcohol. The taste is nice, very malty, some dried fruits, with a long lasting caramel aftertaste. Nice but average. Very nice warming after blast of alcohol.

Feb 01, 2004
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marcobrau from Illinois

2.82/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

A reddish-amber color. A good color for a dopplebock. Pours with a good amount of foam and leaves some lace. Not much in the aroma. The mouthfeel seems a bit thin at first. Not as complex as I'd like to be, with fairly straightforward malt flavors. The finish is perhaps where the most character in this beer emerges, with some rum-like flavors, and a bit of dryness. Much too attenuated for the style.

Jan 07, 2004
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Dogbrick from Ohio

3.03/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Not really up there with the better seasonals I have tried but not bad either. Dark copper color with minimal head and lace. Caramel and malt aroma. Flavor seemed unbalanced but it evened out as it warmed. Rich maltiness but seemed to have a watery fruit finish.

Dec 11, 2002
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putnam from Michigan

3.68/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Clear reddish brown. The nose betrays a fair dose of aromatic hops. More than I expect for a doppelbock. There is also caramel and cinnamon jawbreakers. Interesting smell.
On the palate it is pure, with the candy flavor of a tripple, only not as complex. The hops take a back seat and offer token support in the form of mild, fine bitterness. Simple. The flavors vanish leaving a swollen impression of alcohol.
Carefully made. Technically wonderful. It fails on style points.
A hoppy, dry, simple, amber low-alcohol (8%) Triple in my book.

Nov 19, 2002
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LarryKemp from Texas

3.33/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer poured a very clear dark amber. There was plenty of carbonation still in the beer and it had a fairly long lasting finger width head.

The nose was of malt maybe slightly roasted.

I was mosted disappointed by the hop bitterness that to me dominated the maltiness. The sweet malts started in mouthfull but was quickly replaced by bitterness.

The mouthfeel was moderate to full and left the tongue tingling.

It is a drinkable session beer, but I would not recommend it for someone trying to figure out this style.

Feb 28, 2003
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Gusler from Arizona

3.7/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a merky, deep dark brown, a pretentoius frothy brown head and average lace that cling in sheets to the glass. Nose is malt with lightly toasted grain tones, caramel, and somewhat sweet. Start is sweet malt, the mouthfeel moderate, the finish has a pertinent amount of carbonation, meaningfully hopped, and a dry aftertaste. A good beer, not great, but worthy of the title "Winter Warmer".

Oct 19, 2002
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brewdlyhooked13 from Ohio

2.89/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - pours a slightly cloudy amber and forms a full finger of creamy, tan head. Some sticky lacing residue as the head slowly fades to a covering.

Aroma - malts and some raisiny sweetness, trace amounts of coffee or chocolate, it's kind of hard to pick up. On the lighter side, for a doppelbock I would think there would be more here.

Taste - sweet, raisiny, predictable. It's easy to tell that if it wasn't as sweet, the alcohol would show through much more. As it is, while it's not boozy per se, you can just tell it's got some kick. Finishes kind of dry, but not really any hop presence to speak of. Some warmth at the end. Not very developed, but not bad.

Mouthfeel - thin, but with some solidness despite, giving it some syrupiness you might expect from a doppelbock.

Drinkability - it's a little shallow for the style, but it's on track. Still, if you're gonna pop an 8%-er, you tend to expect more.

May 30, 2004
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Winter from Wisconsin

3.06/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a clear copper with a thin white head. Fairly light aroma consists of sweet malt, dark fruit and alcohol. Mouthfeel is thin. Malt and raisin dominate the palate. Some biscuity flavor is detected towards the back as the beer warms a little. Not sure what classifies this as a "winter" beer, other than the higher alcohol level. Overall I thought this was a pretty bland tasting doppelbock and comes up short as a winter seasonal.

Dec 01, 2003
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francisweizen from Alaska

3.67/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This very rich, ruby-red coloured doppel bock, poured with a nice tan head. The aromas were all malt with no hops to be found. The taste was sweet, rich, syrupy, and very malty. The drinkability was excellent and the mouthfeel was rich and full...

NICE!

Oct 31, 2003
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BJC from New Jersey

3.2/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

very full bodied - heavy
sweet caramel with a pronounced alcohol taste
not a good beer with a meal due to its body
nice balancing hops which produce a good beer burp
on balance a good WINTER beer; wouldn't touch it during the warm weather

Dec 08, 2002
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nixhecks from Rhode Island

4.42/5  rDev +30.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

My first brew from Saxer, came with my beer of the month mailing for this month. Poured a deep amber color with a good amount of carbonation and a foamy head that left no lace. The aroma was very good, a mix of malts and spices. I was quite surprised with the first sip. The sweetness and over malty flavors I have noticed with other doppelbocks was very mild and made for a clean crisp taste. The first thing that came to my mind was a Sam Adam's Boston Lager, its most likely that the lagering process is the thing causing the similarity in taste. Overall this was a very drinkable beer with good balance and a number of quality characteristics.

Mar 02, 2003
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Mitchster from Michigan

3.06/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Clear, medium-amber in color forming a thin off-white head atop medium-sized bubbles, with moderate carbonation. Retention is poor, and lacing is just ok. Aroma is of sweet amber malts with less of a dark fruit note than expected...more of a a sweet brown ale aroma here. Hops are minimal to non-existent. Caramel, a subtle hint of alcohol, a mild toasty grain note, and walnuts round out the smell. Mouthfeel is average with a thin, lightly-fizzy body. Taste begins with sweet amber malts and more fruitiness than expected for a lager. There is a crisp, toasty note in there, and a metallic quality is evident with a slight hint of fusels. There is mild rubbery hops in the middle with a vegetable character as well. The finish is artificially sweet with an odd, but not unpleasant graininess, as if they used roasted caramunich malts. The alcohol is evident in taste, and has some acetone quality to it. Definitely not a stellar example of the style...somewhere between a crummy Leinenkugel dopplebock and a decent American interpretation, but far from authentic Germans.

Mar 27, 2003
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Reidrover from Oregon

3.58/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Ok my wonderful trip into the Winter beers continues with this offering from a brewery that has both pleased me and let me down in the past.
Comes in a 12 oz brown long neck..mountain man atop a horse on the label.
This is actually quite a good looking beer.. a clear garnet red almost chesnut brown small off white head that leaves some nice lace.
The aroma is pretty pleasant chocolat malts..with a slight wiff of the alcohol..at first the aroma was bad..but it improved after about 10 minutes .
As expected with a dopple its very malty..but its too "thin" really the alcohol shows through in a "winey" way..heats the throat and chest afterwards.
too thin for my likeing on the palate..too carbonated.
For all its faults its definatlly a "winter warmer'...nice one.

Nov 08, 2003
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TPoling from Texas

4.04/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Cokes review of Jackfrost immediately preceeding this one must not have been the same beer I experienced. This tasting is from last year's batch and sat in the beerator for about a year. Wish I had reviewed a year ago for comparison or had access to this year's batch.

The reddish amber double bock had a thin head, but lots of malt in the nose. The rich mouthfeel came with toastiness and caramel with hints of banana and prunes. There also was over-ripe baked fruit in the finish.

Jan 03, 2004
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ALESwhatCURESya from Wisconsin

3.13/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This poured kinda flat but I really liked the aroma that came off the, fairly small, head. There was a nice sweet malt aroma. The taste comes out a little to malty but finishes a little drier than the start. A nutty taste is the final taste, but it seems a little stale. I would not say that this is at all a bad beer, it is also not a great one. This is a fairly average beer. I am a little concered that it doesn't seem to taste like other dopplebocks that I have had.

Jan 29, 2004
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filabrazilia from Colorado

3.77/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a clear amber with a generous tan head that settles into nice lace on the glass.

There is a citrus aroma in the nose with mild spice notes.

This beer is lightly malted with hints of fruit and spice. In many ways, this reminds me of a Belgian ale. I would give it a higer rating, but I don't believe this is indicative of the style.

There is a medium bodied feel to this beer that is accented by a crisp dry finish.

With a well concealed alcohol content, this beer does not let you know how strong it is. You could drink alot of these, but at great peril to your sobriety. A pleasant drinking experience that I would try again.

Jan 13, 2004
Saxer JackFrost Winter Doppelbock from Saxer Brewing Company / Nor'Wester Beer Company
Beer rating: 82 out of 100 with 33 ratings