Old Fred
Brauerei Zoller-Hof

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American Amber / Red Lager
Ranked #22
Ranked #19,347
3.99 | pDev: 13.78%
Brauerei Zoller-Hof
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Notes: This amber lager is brewed in loving memory of Mr. Frederick Miller, founder of the Miller Brewing Company, who studied to become a brewmaster at a brewery right next to the royal castle of the Hohenzollern in Sigmaringen, Germany. The beer is a testament to what Old Fred would have brewed in his times, using the same water source and the highest quality locally sourced raw materials. We just added a bit of new world flavors using American Cascade hops.
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Photo of Mindcrime1000
3.9/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a reddish-amber with limited head but excellent lacing. Nearly clear. A nice-looking beer.

Aromas are fairly malt-forward, but the promised Cascade hops are there, albeit as a note in the background. Toasted and biscuity.

The flavor is fairly muted but solid. Caramelized and biscuity malts forward with just a hint of hops. Nicely balanced.

The mouthfeel is also strong. Light, crisp and dry at the finish.

Overall, a pretty solid homage to the Miller man.

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Photo of lastmango
3.69/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured a clear dark reddish brown color with no head. Aroma is faint caramel and bread. Clean and crisp caramel, toast and hop notes that balances the sweetness. The flavor here is light. The body is moderate with light carbonation.

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Photo of metter98
3.81/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is clear mahogany red in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a quarter finger high white head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a narrow collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light aromas of toasted and grainy malts are present in the nose.
T: The taste follows the smell and has additional notes of spicy hops. No bitterness is perceptible, and the hops mostly serve to mask any sweetness from the malts.
M: It feels medium-bodied and clean on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The taste of this beer has a nice balance between the malts and hops. I really liked the clean mouthfeel and the spicy hop flavors.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of Gajo74
3.84/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours a clear dark amber that is nearly brown. A wisp of a head curiously covers only part of the surface, like a crescent moon, and quickly dissipates.
The aroma is its strong suit in terms of its subtle but diverse qualities. A mild fruity tone is followed by caramel and toffee. Then there is the rich tones of Vienna malt; toasty and bready. There is also a slight citrus and floral aroma.
Clean taste with a clean finish. However, the malt adds a bready and toasty character and balanced sweetness. The caramel and toffee also add sweetness and fullness. There is a gentle hops spice and bitterness, however, the Vienna malts rum the show.
Medium bodied with a soft texture. This felt more like a Vienna Lager than American Amber Ale. Nevertheless, I thought it was decent and did a nice job of blending American and European qualities.

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Photo of SABERG
4.13/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle "best by 6/2018" into the test glass
A - excellent amber backdrop, wonderfully clear, super carbonation feeding a steady off white cap.
S - Herbal notes, nice grain elements, hints of warm dark toast with apricot
T - Follows the nose well, add some delightful lite orange to the mix
M - Wonderful body, carbonation and clean finish
O - A wonderful amber lager,crisp, flavorful and well constructed, I will be stopping back to pick up some more.

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Photo of Premo88
4.49/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

two 11.2 oz. bottles poured into a big mug
(Aug. 4, 2017 best by dates printed on labels of both bottles; gift from @TongoRad)

L: amber-orange, clear, pushes up thick head of offwhite/beige foam about 1-inch tall; sticky on top; keeps a thick collar and a thin skin; not much lacing, and the skin disappears after a few minutes and we're down to a tight, thin collar of beige foam; still, the clarity and color are amazing, and the heavy pour was a show

S: starfruit, slight pine, slight grapefruit, cranberries

T: toasted sugar-coated cranberries, blackberry pie; Cascade hops are helping flavor but there's also a thin layer of earthiness under the sweet, not enough to be bitter but enough to tame the high level of sweetness; maybe some burnt something in that earthiness ... like some roasted Vienna malt ... it's not dark and not really burnt, but it's well toasted; the earthy aftertaste is really pushing this thing along ... again, it's not too much, not bitter, but it's laying down a nice foundation on which those sweet fruit flavors can play on top of on the next swallow; peach/apricot blending into toasted peach into dates; blueberries ... blueberry pancake browned really really well on at least one side

F: light but well filled out by the carbonation ... very workmanlike ... made for drinking

O: Fred Miller would be proud ... this is one fantastic brew; the lightly toasted malt flavors aren't easy for me to describe but they are super easy to enjoy;

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Photo of TongoRad
4.23/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Here's a beer brewed in tribute to Fred Miller, founder of Miller Brewing, and it's a hybrid American/European amber lager, as it features Cascade hops.

In any event, it's a very tasty and well-made beer, clean as a whistle, and showing a lot of finesse in its use of ingredients; it's delicate and easy to drink, but not bland by any stretch. You know that the Cascades are there by the orange/floral quality, but it's pretty gentle overall, and blends extremely well with the toasty caramel malt that makes up the base of the flavor profile. Some honeyish graham cracker aroma also comes out mid glass with a bit of swirling. As hybrids go, this beer pulls it off as well as can be expected, no bumps or rough edges at all.

It also stands to reason, that this flavor profile isn't really all that unique, considering all of the Amber Ales back in the day that used the Cascade/Caramel malt combo. But this is a lager, and also has qualities of a Vienna Lager, so in that sense it's bringing something of interest as well- nicely dry and moderately full, with decent bitterness. The real key to this beer, to me at least, it how it holds up after a few bottles; something like this is just made for the long haul. At this point, where I'm about 1-1/2 bottles into the mug, it's a great success- the malt still has pop, and the hops are still bright and lively. Well worth seeking out, if you are into this sort of beer.

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