A Terrible Idea
21st Amendment Brewery

A Terrible IdeaA Terrible Idea
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Style:
New England IPA
ABV:
6.8%
Score:
86
Avg:
3.75 | pDev: 9.33%
Reviews:
22
Ratings:
61
From:
21st Amendment Brewery
 
California, United States
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Retired (no longer brewed)
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SCORE
86
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A Terrible IdeaA Terrible Idea
Notes: In collaboration with our local Bay Area friends at Fieldwork Brewing (who know a “little” about hops in beers) we bring you A Terrible Idea. Discover malt clouds supporting silky yeast with a creamy mouthfeel, then brace yourself for a MAMMOTH dry hop charge – 4 pounds of hops per barrel to be exact – which is twice our typical rate.

Was inventing a triangle wheel a terrible idea? Ok yes, maybe so. Was making this beer? Absolutely not. We stand behind the claim that the strong hop flavors and aromas, coupled with juicy notes of peach, orange, mango and pineapple will spark your taste buds back from extinction.
Reviews: 22 | Ratings: 61
Photo of woodychandler
4.06/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

After having spent so much time with CANadian CANned beers & then Cape May B.C. CANned beers, The CANQuest (tm) has begun returning to its roots. Sean-O has long supported the idea of craft beer in CANs & this one & the following are a tribute to his status as a visionary.

From the CAN: "After inventing the Triangle Wheel, we began to wonder if it was A Terrible Idea."

I Crack!ed open the vent & gave a moment to pause & reflect on my next move. It was identified as an NEIPA, but I thought that I would begin with a slow, gentle C-Line Glug to see if clarity was a possibility. When that did not pan out, I upended the CAN to let it run out freely. This netted me two-plus fingers of dense, foamy, rocky, French Vanilla-colored head with great retention. Color was a cloudy Amber (SRM = > 7, < 9). Nose was REALLY fruity & juicy enCANpassing a wide range from citrus to tropical & my hophead mouth was watering unCANtrollably! Mouthfeel was medium, but quite creamy, thanks to the addition of lactose. As to its taste - "peach" - check!, "orange" - check!, "mango" - check! and "pineapple" - check! I would also add grapefruit and a bit of pine woodiness. Mmm. I knew that drinking this one was a terribly good idea! Yum. Finish was dry and somewhat bitter, rated at/as 55 IBUs. I CAN see drinking a few of these out of my beach-bound Summer cooler.

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Photo of FriedSlug
4.1/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Orange and unfiltered with a short white head. Lots of particulate floating that settles to the bottom. Citrus and pine in the nose with some orange and maybe a little pineapple. Taste is a nice balance of sweet malt, orange citrus and piney bitterness.

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Photo of CTHomer
3.69/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: cloudy; deep gold in color; 2 finger off white head that receded to a wispy cap; nice lacing;

S: somewhat subdued; pineapple, peach, orange, mango, and some dankness;

T: pineapple, peach, orange, and mango from start to finish; mild bitterness at the end;

M: medium bodied; moderate carbonation; moderately dry finish;

O: I don't know if this was a terrible idea, but it was just a good result;

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Photo of Sheppard
4.09/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours like a hazy New England IPA. Not murky, golden but not too thick looking. Some tropical fruit aroma. I'm getting some pineapple. There's a lot of stone fruit flavor and there is some welcome resiny bitterness that underpins this beverage. Not bad.

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Photo of drkiwibird
3.83/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Easy drinking hazy IPA. Got this beer in their IPA variety 15 pack, I got it for 16$ which is a pretty good deal if you like IPAs but don't want to spend too much

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Photo of MaltsOfGlory
3.64/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz can

Pours a silky one and a half fingers of creamy white head into my tulip. The head looks wonderful. Head retention is above average so far, gotta love that specialty malt. Wonderful initial lacing. Body is what would be expected, hazy, looks like an orange milkshake. So far the beer looks really nice.

The nose is super juicy and citrusy, mango, lemon. Dank hops, earthy, zesty. Wheat/oats are present. I'd be surprised if there was lactose in here, it's a very clean, bright smelling hazy, this is how it's done. None of that musty shit you find in this style. Overall it smells very very good.

Unfortunately the flavor is not quite as bright, dank, citrusy, or crisp as the nose. Very malt forward, hard to taste anything else. Not extremely sweet from any lactose, but getting a pretty heavy dose of something like Marris Otter or similar, along with the heavy presence of wheat/oats. Honestly there are very few flavors to pick up on hop wise. I'll let it warm, but this is disappointing.

Mouthfeel is pretty nice. Relatively thick body, medium carbonation. Bitterness is pretty low, and doesn't linger, sigh, that's the style I guess. Besides the obvious bastardization of the IPA style, and lack of kettle hops, and therefore bitterness - the body is good.

The drinkability is pretty good. Not over the top delicious, but whatever.

The appearance turned out pretty fantastic. The head lasted quite a long time, and I got nice, thick lacing down the glass.

The taste did not improve, and overall, yeah I don't know what happened here. No canning date, but bought from a reputable store. Newish beer, so I doubt it's that old. Not very impressed here.

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Photo of TheSixthRing
3.81/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance - Pours hazy and orange in color with an off-white, finger width head. Good retention before dying down to a thin, consistent layer of suds with a frothy ring around the edges. Great amount of lacing which decorates the glass in sheeting, broken lines and small spotting.

Smell - Orange, pineapple and some crackery malt sweetness.

Taste - Follows the nose. Moderately juicy notes of orange and pineapple with a strong crackery malt sweetness. Touch of papaya. Hint of grassy bitterness in the finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with light carbonation. Slick, easy drinker with a smooth finish.

Overall - Decent juiciness, but not especially deep in the flavor. It's a good addition to the variety pack; I just wish they replaced the Blood Orange instead of the Back in Black.

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Photo of Act25
3.69/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

If you want pineapple/grapefruit/organge juice beer, this would be the one.
a) Floats a hazy golden amber body with an off white flimsy head that layers and laces
s) Massive citrus juice plus some bubble gum.
t) All kinds of citrus, grapefruit, lemon, pineapple, and orange, a bit of pine, herbal, but too sweet acid in the end. I dont drink citrus juice for same reason.
f) Slathering slick, but too sticky sweet. Medium body and moderate carbonation.
o) Committee beer from 2 great brewers.

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Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. Can. 21st. Amendment/Fieldwork brewing

A pineapple and orange juice look except for the white, frothy foam top that holds on tight, drops off with some nice sticky lacing.

Smells like spritzy citrus juice. Orange, pineapple and tangy vodka somewhere in there. The hops have a very, dry and sour earthy range, dried leaves and crispy chared wheat with an herbal blend rounds out the nose.

East meets West...coast! A Terrible Idea doesn't taste like a terrible idea. Luckily, the combo, of grainy, golden but medium bodied malty side gives you that beefy malt feel with crispy edges. The hops are also the perfect blend of East/west. Dry and bitter, higher alpha acidic effect melds with pineapple and citrus, tropical East coast thing. Dry and juicy hops, sharp grapefruit bite, long citrus and black pepper hit ends with a certain dry-grainy style taste meld.

Overall...not such a bad idea.

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Photo of snaotheus
4.25/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2018-11-03
12oz can served in a tulip. I can't read the date on the bottom of it. Given to me by a friend.

Pours a hazy light yellow with a big fluffy head and medium to high carbonation. Smell is hop resin, grapefruit rind, and maybe something like guava.

Taste is right along the same lines. A little bit more in the tropical direction than the aroma.

Mouthfeel is light, moderately dry. Overall, very nice beer.

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Photo of stevoj
3.93/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Can from Moscow Co-op. Looking for some filler to finish the night, and then this. Stunning. Normal enough pour, but with a wispy, airy, frothy head. Aroma is in the zone, but taste quickly expands with tropical, citrus, bitter notes. Smooth, yet sharp, and juicy. Excellent.

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Photo of RyanK252
3.67/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Can poured into a Mountain Rambler Brewing Co pint glass

A: Pours hazy golden amber with a frothy off white head that settles to nice layer and leaves some light lacing.

S: Bubble gum, pine, a little citrus, faint tropical fruit, biscuity malt, and caramel sweetness.

T: Bubble gum, citrus, grapefruit, lemon, and orange, spicy pine, herbal notes, eucalyptus, a little tropical fruit on the back end, passion fruit peach, papaya, and a hint of melon, biscuity malt, and caramel sweetness. Something in there comes through as kinda chemical and soapy.

M: Medium body, moderate carbonation.

O: I had some high hopes for this one given the two breweries involved, but it's a letdown. Hop flavors just don't come off right. Just like the triangle wheel, let's just move on and pretend this never happened.

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Photo of daliandragon
3.82/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Looks and smells good, with a big, lacy white head above the opaque neon orange brown hue. Nose is rife with tropical flavors and hop oil.

Flavor mirrors the nose with juicy, tropical, oily notes from stem to stern. Unfortunately, the texture, particularly at the top of the sip falls a bit flat. A little graininess mars the aftertaste. Not bad, but not among the best in the style.

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Photo of dbl_delta
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Can dated "Sat 30" (Hmmm. Last Saturday occurring on the 30th of the month was June - almost 3 months ago. How much trouble would it be to put a complete date on NEIPAs, where the age actually matters??) Pours a hazy gold-burnt orange-amber with a massive off-white head. I'm not a fan of fizzy beers, so this is not a good sign.
Initial impression is pineapple, mango, maybe some peach, apricot, and caramel. Carbonation is actually not oppressive. Mouthfeel is medium, with a little prickliness from the carbonation. Finish is mostly sweet, with a lingering fruity bitterness on the back of the throat.
Not the worst NEIPA I've ever had, but far from the best.

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Photo of matcris
3.54/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

LOOKS: A hazy, sort of burnt oj, with a finger of white foam that lasts, and leaves a fair lacing.
AROMA: Smells just like a SN Hazy Little Thing IPA. Over ripened citrus and some tropical fruit. Slight astringency.
TASTE: Ditto, just like a SN HLT, except a bite more of that astringent bite. Bitterness fairly mild.
FEEL: Medium-ish body, dry, a little sticky, and full on carbonation.
OVERALL: Between the two, I'd go with HLT.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.11/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3

Skilled brewers of an older ilk have a hard time embracing the new. Even as the pressure mounts to produce a newly defined hop bomb, the haze craze is showing that the new developments in IPA making means unlearning the way we have always used hops. Larger breweries with a model for production are having a difficult time doing what the taproom model is doing quite well.

21st Amendment folds to the pressure and churns out A Terrible Idea, a New England styled IPA that pours with a golden haze that's more opaque than classic West Coast IPA but off of the turbid nature of most hazy IPA. As a volumnous head mounts on the rim, the scent opens with a sense of peppery citrus, pungent herbs and a rootish character. Sweetness strikes first on the tongue with a lightness of caramel, honey, pistachio and bread crust.

As the sweetness lifts the hops develop into a sharp citrus taste of tangerine peels, lime rinds, white grapefruit and with a pep of peach. The beer oddly dries to a peppery middle palate with a deep and earthy taste mounting. chive, geranium and shallot rises with a nearly smoked nuance. A strong yeast bite comes with a stemmy, grassy and herbaceous bitterness to leave the late palate unsettled and plastic.

Medium bodied but trending dry, the beer never really decides whether it wants to be a dry and bitter West Coast IPA or a juicier, fuller New England version. The middle ground could work if not for the phenolic spice or the more earthy hops which don't usually fare well with hazy IPA. Usually quite adept at IPA making, this 21st Amendment ale isn't terrible, but is barely tolerable.

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Photo of brewme
3/5  rDev -20%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Picked-up a six-pack of cans for about twelve dollars at Bradford's in Plymouth. Have had a couple of brews from these guys before. The name is appropriate, as this is not good.

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Photo of IneloquentSteve
4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

You guys must be licking onions before you drink one because this stuff is dank and juicy, Very impressed, shits on some of the $18 4 packs I've had of late.

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Photo of MikeWard
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz can into a pint glass at Hucklebucks in Pottsville PA last night. Code on the bottom of the can unhelpful in determining age, but this a very recent release.

Hazy bordering on murky orange/amber body body. small white white head which dissipates to little more than a ring. no lacing

aroma is only mildly hoppy, floral, onion.

Hops are very subdued. Onion & faintly piney. Slightly sweet malt background.

Mouth around medium, finish hay & vegetable.

Overall, while not glaringly unpleasant, I must freely admit that I don't care for the oniony profile here. this is a sub par ipa in my books

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Photo of passam1
3.18/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

It’s cool to see a Fieldwork logo in the supermarket, but the hop profile on this beer does not work for me. I get onion, a certain chalkiness, and something almost solvent like in addition to an overripe tropical fruit flavor.

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Photo of BayAreaJoe
3.53/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Well they got the name right. I really wanted to like this beer. Even with the big name collaboration, this was less than run-of-the-mill to me and was a bit of a chore to finish.

Bright, fruity, but strange aroma and flavor.

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Photo of BB1313
3.64/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

This is a "Hazy IPA". 12oz can poured into a tulip. Pours a hazy and cloudy golden with bubbles racing upwards; fluffy eggshell white head that slowly falls leaving great thick retention and sticky lacing. The aromas have some orange along with some pineapple and melon. Malts are there. The flavors have a nice amount of watermelon leading the way. Some citrus in the mix. Some fresh grass. Nice hop flavors with a solid hop bitterness. It's not too sweet. Nice malt backbone. Finishes juicy. Alcohol goes unnoticed. Mouthfeel is very nice. It's medium-bodied with active carbonation. It's sharp, fluffy, smooth and easy to drink.

This is a pretty solid "hazy IPA". It drinks like a beer and not fruit juice. Solid hop aromas and flavors. It's enjoyable and fun to drink. It's probably even better than my "numerical score" might indicate. I like it.

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A Terrible Idea from 21st Amendment Brewery
Beer rating: 86 out of 100 with 61 ratings