Odd Notion - Braggot (Winter 2008)
Magic Hat Brewing Company

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3.56 | pDev: 11.8%
Magic Hat Brewing Company
Vermont, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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Reviews: 74 | Ratings: 82
Photo of portia99
3.78/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle that has been sitting in the cellar for a couple of years...part of an effort to clean out a bit...poured into a Bruery tulip.

A - A firm pour down the center of the glass yields an amber tinted gold body full of suspended yeast particles and two fingers of fluffy white head that exhibits pretty good retention qualities. Head dies after several minutes leaving behind some foamy lacing on the glass.

S - Big spicy and very herbal aroma...quite grassy. Honey, lavender, thyme, some citrus...not much else cuts through this for malts or hops.

T - More malt cuts through the herbal notes than in the aroma...a nice biscuity base, dry and a bit yeasty. Lots of herbal character still here though - floral and grassy hops, mid-level bitterness. A bit medicinal, a touch fruity, rather dry.

M - Body is medium with a healthy higher level carbonation - foamy and fizzy on the tongue. Rather dry overall, rather floral and quite herbal. Lingering bitterness past the swallow.

O - Interesting...definitely a bit different from the usual offerings out there. Grassy and very herbal nature gives it a distinct character. Enjoyable as a once in a while sort of beer, definitely not something I would be interested in drinking regularly though...no chance of that anyway, considering this is about three years old right now.

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Photo of Knapp85
3.38/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew poured out as a golden yellow color with a white head. The smell of this beer took my by surprise because I didn't know the style was a Braggot and not a Winter Warmer of some kind. The smell was soft and kind of sweet. The taste was just about the same. No winter spices or anything of that nature in this brew. The mouthfeel was highly drinkable. I wish I could have this one again. Glad I got to try it though when it was out.

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Photo of mikesgroove
3.51/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

reviewed from notes, this one was serve in a pint glass during a magic hat tasting i had with my brother in law down at his apartment.

Poured a very clear, honey colored amber with no head and no lace. Lots of visible carbonation streaming up in bubles from the glass throughout the session. The color on this was simply gourgeous, I had not seen anything this shade before, quite stunning actually.

here were very subtle honey aromas and hints of nutmeg and cinnamon. A nice bready grain presence as well as grapes, pears, and a bit of fig could be detected, again though Had a definate mead like feel and taste about it. Flavors were were overshadowed a bit by the alcohol. which you really needed to fight your way through. I could detect the ever so slight hint of honey, and alot of the grape flavor in it. Hints of peaches or pears could be detected as well as alot of winter like spices, nutmeg, cinnamon, etc. A very complex flacor profile for sure on this.

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Photo of OWSLEY069
3.06/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy orange-ish to yellow color with an off white head. In the aroma, ginger, cinnamon, and a mixture of other spices. In the taste, quite spicy, but dry ginger stands out the most. A light spice bite and medium to light bodied mouthfeel, with a dry light spice in the aftertaste. Nice light spice, bet it would be nice for sushi.

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Photo of ccrida
3.97/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle poured into my Bristol Mass Transit Ale shaker pint glass, Odd Notion (Winter '08) is a hazy, dark dull gold with a small off-white head that leaves light lace.

Smell is strong honey and butterscotch diacetyl, like Wethers candy, appealing, although a bit of graininess comes out as it warms, that I could do without.

Taste is pretty good, I'm really impressed with how robust the honey flavor is here, at a year old. This is the first braggot that I've had a full beers worth of, but it's seems like a good example of the style, distinctly different from any others. There's a pretty strong plasticy phenolic bite to it that I could do without, but there's not overt herb or spice character (which I almost never like).

Mouthfeel is dry, some crispness, medium bodied.

Drinkability is pretty good, I'm really liking the honey flavor, robust but not overwhelming. Pretty smooth, but the phenols need checked.

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Photo of thespaceman
3.77/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a pint glass.

Off white head atop a a hazy amber in color, loads of spice in the nose, some clove, orange peel and coriander. This taste almost like a batch of Christmas cookies! Bready malt backbone is very reserved and pairs nicely with the spice additions. Very cake like and sweet. Mouthfeel has a decent amount of carbonation and feels a bit sharp. Overall, an odd yet pretty decent winter offering and a good one at that from MH.

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Photo of goblue3509
3.51/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a golden orange color. The smell is of sweet desert breads and honey with a hint of floral hops. The overall taste is of a strong sweet bread malt backbone which gives way to a mild hoppy bitterness. The mouthfeel is of medium carbonation. A drinkable beer with decent complexity to it. Smooth tasting and easy to drink.

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Photo of damienblack
3.46/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle left from the winter 08 odd notion, says I should have drank it by Feb 09. Still plenty carbonated, no oxidation thus far. Looks like a very fortified pee, very golden yellow and hazy. head shoots up a mile. Doesn't smell like much... honey maybe? It's kind of thin, doesn't taste like much, either. Like a watered down honey-wine or mead. Lots of sweet. Nice and smooth though, textured like honey smooth. Nice and drinkable, very refreshing for the hot summer.

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Photo of rfgetz
3.35/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Darker golden orange, almost appricot

S: Bready malts and sweet honey. A little spice, a little hops and a little booze.

T: Bready malts, sweet honey, spice... bitter finnish. Neither sticking out and making this a great brew

M: Average... medium body, medium carb.

D: A bunch of different things going on, but never comes together.

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Photo of csmiley
3.76/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours medium gold and has some haze going on. The white head comes to an inch and sticks around for a couple minutes. Abundant lacing is left behind. Odd notion has a nice refreshing look to it.

S - Aroma is light and could use a little work. Some honey kind of sticks out at first. White bread comes through in the background. Hard candy is barely noticeable towards the end. Not bad, just a little light.

T - Very bready right out of the gate with a nice full white bread flavor and some cracker that comes in closely behind. Some sweeter notes come in midway to end. Getting honey and a definite sugary flavor mixed in. One word...refreshing.

M - Lighter bodied with a medium carbonation level. Very smooth with a light and sweet finish.

D - Drinkability is pretty good for this version of Odd Notion. Alcohol is well hidden and it just disappears way too quick. Even though it was released for winter it still does a nice job in the warmer weather as well. The aroma falls a little flat but other areas all come across as solid. I would happily have another one of these...or three.

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Photo of hwwty4
4.36/5  rDev +22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to hojaminbag for this one.

Poured a 12oz bottle into my Boulevard Smokestack chalice. This beer pours a hazy, shadowy golden with just a touch of a thin white head that left no lacing. While only being my third or so braggot to judge from, it seems like it has pretty bad head retention for the style. The aroma is of peaches, honey, and floral hops. The aroma melds together extremely well even though the aromas are distinct enough to pick them out individually. The flavor is outstanding. When Old Notion hits the palate it reminds me of sucking on a honeysuckle flower. Sweet honey comes through first, with a blast of floral hops, candy sugar, and just a spritz of fruity citrus. The mouthfeel, in my opinion, should be a little bit heavier then it is but it finishes strikingly dry, leaving the mouth yearning for another sip. If I had a case of this stuff, I think it could really turn it into my summer go to beer. Light and refreshing, it just screams drink me on the front porch while staring at the fireflies.

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Photo of mralphabet
3.82/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into nonic pint glass.

A: Orange-yellow in colored.. very clear with about 2 fingers of head... Little to no lacing.

S: First thing I smell is a breadiness like saltine crackers... The next thing I'm getting is some sweet fruitiness and malt.. Maybe some honey and floral hops mixed in.

T: A moderate splash of sweetness fills the mouth to start early then fades quickly to a hoppy bitterness... The aftertaste has a strange smokey sweetness... Very nice.

M: Med bodied, with a ever so slight chalkiness. The carbonation is med.

D: My first Braggot.... and I have to say another fine beer from Magic Hat.. Now I wish I had more of these.... Very drinkable, maybe not a session beer but a nice ride.

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Photo of littleshamrocks
3.25/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Deep amber with a generous white head that hung around for a bit then dissipated to a rocky crown. Steady carbonation bubbles rising and what appears to be tiny, tiny particles suspended in the body.

S: Kind of a perfume-y aroma of flowers and honey. Bready malt in the background.

T&M: Medium body with a rather spritzer-ish feel to it. Flavors of grainy malt, honey, floral to herbal hops with a permeating peach-like fruitiness. Finishes with a lingering sweetness.

D: This is a beer that I am glad to have tried. It is unique in it's style and, to my recollection, the only braggot that I have had. All things considered, I found it good but personally I prefer beers with more bitterness and less sweetness. It left me with the impression of the beer equivalent of a wine cooler.

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Photo of scruffwhor
4.12/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Oh boy, my first braggot!!!

Hazey IPA-ish amber hue with some very fine sediment floating about. Very quick foam and head after the pour. Only one column of bubbles rising to the top. Sweet toasted malts and honey aroma with just a touch of herbal hops for balance. Honey taste and creamy mouthfeel start up front. The middle gets some more grainy texture and flavor. Andthe honey and herbal hops combine well. Well integrated malt, honey, and hops. This was a well thought out and crafted malt braggot. Very sessionable. I like. Maybe thy should make this year round.

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Photo of roadhouse
3.08/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass.

Appears a somewhat hazy golden-orange color with a one inch off-white head. Minimal lacing left on the glass.

Aroma is kind of hard to describe. It has a sweetness to it, a minerally chalky character, some floral aromatics, and that's about it. Very weak overall.

Taste is mildly sweet, some random spices but they don't really point to anything in partcular. Again somewhat minerally. A musty funk.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, creamy carbonation, and a soft touch.

This is my first try at a Braggot, but if others taste as bland as this I am not really excited to try any more.

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Photo of blakesell
3.43/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured from the 12oz bottle into a standard pint glass.

Appearance- Beer pours cloudy and yellow with a substantial two finger head of bone colored cream on top that quickly dies to a murk around the edges. Lacing clings to the sides of the glass. Looks a lot like a wheat beer.

Smell- Smells more like wort than a full on beer. Sweet creamy notes and sweetness. I catch hardly any honey but it is there the more I smell it. Lighter malts on the nose, and no hops. Since I love wort, this is faring well for the beer later.

Taste- Sweet and juicy like a pear, there is a little pear flavor, but it's more like when you bite into a ripe pear, that kind of juiciness. Honey is light and flavorful, but I'm getting a whole lot more of the base beer than anything. Creamy and fairly interesting.

Mouthfeel- Sweet, creamy, medium low in carbonation and medium light in body.

Drinkability- Very nice, maybe even something good to see in a six pack. I think it would cater well to the beginner craft beer drinker due to the still beer-y flavor but still very sweet aftertaste.

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Photo of prototypic
2.83/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Odd Notion doesn't look that odd. In fact, this is a nice looking beer. It's a very rich gold color that's a little hazy. A foamy white head that's about two fingers crowns the top. It held up well and stuck around. Lacing was on the lighter side.

Sweet honey dominates the nose (despite its overall weak nature). Light citrus lemon blends with apple, pear, and peach. Definitely on the sweeter side. A musky smell emerges and opens the door for a spice surge toward the end. It's not a really strong spicy aroma and I can't identify them, save for the pepper. No alcohol is noted. It's alright. Above average, but too weak to score any higher.

The flavor profile is very grainy. I wasn't expecting that. There's some light citrus flavors and a mix of pear, apple, and peach fruits. It's a little sweet and honey permeates throughout. That's the nicest flavor here. The spicy element is much more pronounced in flavor. It appears about midway through and is intense. Pepper's definitely there, but I can't identify the others. Alcohol goes unnoticed and it finishes spicy and a little sweet. Frankly, this is an odd tasting beer. Imagine that. The combination of flavors is very jumbled and doesn't work very well. It leaves a very musky, funky aftertaste that's not good at all.

The body is light, leaning medium. Carbonation is active and distracting. It's not smooth and the spicy assault toward the end makes it difficult to really gauge the feel. Drinkability is not very good. The flavor never materializes into anything good and I'm not really enjoying it. I don't want another.

Odd Notion is a little odd and definitely not good. I'm not sure what they were going for with the flavor here. It comes across as decent parts that don't create a nice whole, if that makes any sense. This one needs a good bit of work. I can't recommend it.

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Photo of stoutfiend27
3.23/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle best before 03/09 poured into my foothills pint glass

a-1/8" white head that faded rapidly...cloudy golden in color..nothing to write home about..

s-took a couple of smells before i smelled anything at all...then i got notes of bread, honey, slight malt and something grainy....

t-sweet and thick....this is my first round with a braggot...slight bitterness in the middle..and kind of musty...it is unique i will give it that...

m-thick, and prickly from the carbonation...seems overly carbonated to me but maybe this is common for this style??

d-this is one and done for me....im over it already and im not done with it yet...

overall this is a interesting brew and im glad i tried it...it makes me interested in the style and wanting to try another from another brewery....ive been eying it for a while and decided to pick it up today....imo it could have been better maybe...

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Photo of generallee
3.85/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: It was poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance: The head builds up to medium size, light foamy toping with a light tan color. It quickly fades out to just a light ring of lace which is slick and slides right down the glass as I drink. The body has a lightly hazy hue with a wonderful golden honey color.

Smell: The aroma has notes of sweet honey and light malted grain with just a faint touch of citrus.

Taste/Mouth feel: It has a very smooth creamy mouth feel that coats the palate with its sweet honey and malty flavor. Also there is a mild earthy and leafy spicy quality under that big honey and malt sweetness. Carbonation is soft and the body is a solid medium. Its finish is slow and sweet.

Notes: This was my first Braggot style beer so I have nothing to compare it to, although I will say that my overall impression was very positive.

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Photo of msubulldog25
3.95/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle (that smells vaguely of coffee beans), sent by the one and only Metalmonk. Popped the cap and revealed: "Undressing. Distressing or a Blessing?" Huh? Poured to a snifter, because that's what BA recommends for glassware; my first taste of the 'braggot' style.

A: Very pretty: a golden honey tinged with ruby-pinkness. Fluffy white head builds to just above a finger, settles to a flat film in a minute or so. Translucent glow shows off a fine silty haze and a myriad of streaming tiny bubbles. No lace.

Rich aroma of sweet yeast rolls, definite honey and a mild dry spicing (cracked pepper, indiscernible herbs). A little fruity, maybe a hint of green grape and sweet melons. Gets more complex and more enticing as it sits and warms

T: Bready, almost to an extreme. Lots of yeast and an equal amount of gently spiced honey (the mead element). Take a sip and it, at first, seems a little bland - then earthy-sweet spices build and a rich, grainy nuttiness unfolds. Yeast yields a fe esters: bubblegum, cloves? Sit and ponder this one...

M: Soft carbonation and mild mouthfeel, medium-thin body. Has a little lingering dryness and a bit of lip-smacking malt. Slightly 'buttery' viscosity.

D: Likable - a first for me, would like to try others of this style. Reminds me a little of gruit or a mild kolsch. Pleasant, if not terribly exciting, and drinkable to the point of wanting another. A little bit of a curiosity, but certainly worth a try.

Thanks, JW!

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Photo of xenolithic
3.98/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle a dark straw/light amber color with a 1/2 finger off-white kind of wheat colored head into my pint glass. It looks cloudy, but on further inspection it appears to be an abundance of carbonation. The head quickly dissipates to a slick on the top of the beer.

The nose is malty with a little roast characteristic. There's some spices as well, something that I can't quite place. A little cinnamon, a little honey.

Upon tasting, a honey sweetness that is muted by a slight bitterness comes through. I'm thinking it's the roastedness that cuts through the sweet. It comes off kind of like wheat bread toasted with honey on it. Meaning delicious.

The aftertaste doesn't particularly linger, a little bit of the roasted maltiness on the tip and sides of the tongue that is gone after a few seconds. The mouthfeel of this is as expected, a little watery to oily.

The Drinkability on this is fairly solid. I could have two of these with a meal easily. Something either meaty or perhaps a nice smoky cheese to offset the sweetness of the beer.

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Photo of KTCamm
2.65/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Poured from a bottle from the MH winter variety pack. Bottle had a Feb09 stamped date.

Poured cloudy orange/yellow with a really high foam that lingered long - noteworth retention and lacing as the head died down. Color was quite interesting.

Smell was sweet - the bottle advertised the honey and I could definitely pick this up. Other spices too, though my nose wasn't refined enough to grab it.

Very awkward taste of sweet and bitter with some malt throughout. It was a clever concoction, but not one that I can say I really enjoyed. With two bottles left from the variety back, I may try to pawn these off at a party. This one didn't work for me.

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Photo of Metalmonk
3.83/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a cloudy burnt orange, very "sunset" looking, and very little head. I like the tiny bits floating in suspension, which I'm assuming is typical of the style.

Aroma is honey and exotic spices I can't quite identify. Light and springy. Not bad, just muted.

Flavor offers plenty of taste impressions: honey, fresh-baked bread, anise, mint, caraway seed, coriander, orange marmalade. The more piquant spices end up dominating the finish, which is not necessarily a bad thing, although having some of the initial sweetness ride through for balance would've been even better. A nice sourness pervades.

Mouthfeel has a buttery, round center wrapped in lightly needling carbonation. Seems just right for the flavor characteristics.

Braggot is a new style to me. Reading the style description I felt it probably wasn't my thing, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. Just can't say how true to style it is. I enjoy its left-of-center character, yet for all its sweet, spicy and unusual character, it's an incredibly drinkable beer that probably has lots of appeal to a variety of beer-drinkers.

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Photo of tmoneyba
3.95/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from shigadeyo.

Poured a clear amber color with an average frothy white head that mostly lasted with good lacing.

Moderate honey and spice aroma.

Medium body with a smooth texture and soft carbonation with small particles.

Medium sweet clove flavor with a medium sweet finish of moderate duration.

Refreshing brew.

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Photo of soccerman7
3.6/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - a bright glowing orange with a minimal head. no lacing.

S - Very toasty and biscuit notes. faint hops. A touch of honey but not as much I had thought.

T - Tastes like a shortbread cookie. Very smooth and interesting with the honey flavors that linger. Not as strong as the humdinger braggot I have had. Would actually benefit from a touch more alcohol.

M - Very smooth and not cloyingly sweet.

Drink - It is definitely an interesting brew, and a rare style. Overall I think it is nice, and a great desert brew.

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Odd Notion - Braggot (Winter 2008) from Magic Hat Brewing Company
Beer rating: 81 out of 100 with 82 ratings