230th Anniversary American Sour Ale
Natty Greene's Pub & Brewing Co.

230th Anniversary American Sour Ale230th Anniversary American Sour Ale
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Flanders Oud Bruin
4.25 | pDev: 8.24%
Natty Greene's Pub & Brewing Co.
North Carolina, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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230th Anniversary American Sour Ale230th Anniversary American Sour Ale
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Photo of mothman
3.75/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4


Pours a beige head. Color is a dark amber copper.

Aroma: Very funky and sour. Lots of cherries and caramel. Brown sugar. Acidity and vinegar.

Taste: Super sour. Mouth-puckering intensity. Cherries, vinegar, lemon acidity. Oaky with vanilla.

Mouthfeel: Tart and acidic. Light bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends clean.

Overall, this reminded me of a Santa Fe wild ale. Intense sour. Pretty tasty. Unique, but I liked my small glass.

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Photo of Genghis22
4.2/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle # 72 of 230. Chilled and poured into a tulip. Big thanks to Stephen for hooking this up.

A - Pours muddy brown/ ruby color. Nice creamy looking head that has a faint pink/brown tint to it. Lots of nice lacing.

S - It smells sour alright. Tart cherries and a touch of funk.

T - Tart cherries hit you first, with a nice sour twang at the back of your tongue. Aftertaste has notes of oak, vanilla and earthiness. Subsequent tastes reveal more of the oak characteristics along with the tartness. Overall, very nice.

M - Medium body with moderate carbonation. Coats the mouth nicely and leaves the tongue dry and crisp.

O - Overall, this is a very nice sour. The tartness is there, the funk is there and the oak really rounds it out. I would definitely drink this again, if there were more than 230 bottles of it. A very nice treat from a great friend. If you can get a hold of it, try it, you'll like it.

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Photo of cosmicevan
3.97/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

big thanks to scott for sharing this with mike and i. packaged 12/2010 offered 3/15/2011.

#16 of 230

a - deep purple. thin head that was gone in an instant. ring around the surface of fizziness and some spotty lacing.

s - sour flanders smell. cherriness.

t - classic acidic cherry. classic flanders. nice sourness.

m - sour but not as intense as the others we've had this evening. good carbonation, smooth.

o - overall i dug this one a lot. solid and good. not amazing, but very solid flanders.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks for sharing this, Richard.

Pours a cloudy pinkish red color with a small off-white head. The nose is certainly sour, mostly in the form of vinegar. A little bit of dark fruit and straw, but overall, it's a fairly simnple beer. Maybe a hint of oak. Tastes similar to how it smells. Perhaps a bit more lactic than the aroma lets on, but still fairly vinegary. There is some fruit character such as black cherry and raisin as well as a bit of lemon peel, straw, and grass. Medium body with medium carbonation.

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Photo of ShanePB
4.27/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle received from woolyb in a recent BIF. Thanks so much for sending this my way! Bottle number 119 of 230. Poured into a tulip glass.

A: Dark ruby colored body with red highlights throughout. A nice thick and bubbly tan head sits around for quite some time. Retention is quite nice leaving a film across the surface, as well as sticky lacing on the walls. Great looking Oud Bruin.

S: Oak, black cherry, vinegar, tart berry fruits and wood. The berries come out more as it sits, giving off wonderful aromas of blackberry, raspberry and even some blueberry. There's such a great balance of the acidic vinegar-like qualities with the barrel flavors and fruitiness. Exceptionally well done once again.

T: My first thought was, holy hell that's sour. Black cherry flesh up-front along with a big acidic bite. The caramel malts wash but not long after the berries come through. More blackberry, blueberry and hints of matured wood towards the back end. The beer is certainly heavy on its sourness, but the malt backbone does a nice job trying to smooth things over, even though it fails a bit.

M: Highly bubbly carbonation, fizzy on the palate creating a smoothness to the tongue. Really, this is just what I look for in the style of beer. Certainly dry in the finish, too.

This beer was sensational, it packed so much bite but also had enough fruit flavors and malt elements to keep things interesting. It wasn't lopsided in flavor nor balance, very in tune with the style and my tastes. I really, really enjoyed this one. Thanks again Jason!

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Photo of glid02
4.42/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Robert – thanks! Bottle no. 46 out of 230.

Pours a hazy dark amber-brown color with a tan head that leaves decent lacing.

Smells of medium malts with large amounts of funk, leather, and moderately tart dark cherries. Also present are very slight hints of raisins.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Slightly dry medium malts up front are joined quickly by tart cherries and hints of darker fruits. Midway through some funk comes into play with hints of leather, carrying through to a moderately tart ending. Mouthfeel is good, with active carbonation.

Overall this was a very good beer. I’ve been to the brewpub before and was impressed with some of their offerings, but the fact they’ve hit the nail on the head with such a tough style is very nice to see. Well worth a shot.

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Photo of ATLbeerDog
4.5/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle #46/230 courtesy of RobErt.

Pours a Brownish/Red with a very slight head. Smells of sour apples and pears with a hint of oak peaking thru the nose. First sip is puckering sour with dark fruits dominating. Again it is apples and pears coupled with caramel and tart cherries notes along with a tad of oak. Very well carbonated translates to a great mouthfeel. Pretty much a flawless sour.

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Photo of Phelps
3.75/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A nice surprise shared by ottovon and poured into a tulip.

Brewed for the 230th anniversary of a revolutionary battle, this is an amber ale aged for two years with brettanomyces.

Completely opaque burgundy. A one-finger head of light beach sand becomes a frothy ring after a short while. Some ragged lace festoons the glass as I drink.

Very funky, very tart nose. Caramel, brown sugar, vinous oak, balsamic.

Brown sugar, vinegar and caramel notes continue into the flavor. There’s an extreme blast of sour after the swallow, with lots of balsamic. It’s not too complex, but it is a solid Flanders flavor.

The medium-light body is kind of soft and tongue-puckeringly tart. Carbonation prickles the tongue softly while the acidic qualities feel like they’re taking off my enamel.

This beer wasn’t even close to my radar, but I was pleasantly surprised. A quality Flanders that, while uncomplicated, is quite good.

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Photo of ottovon
4.27/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

thanks to stoutfiend27 for this one.

A: a hazy amber color with an off-white head that fell quickly.

S: a good amount of sourness in the nose. i get strawberries and raspberries. there is a bit of caramel in there and some earthiness.

T: quite sour. the nose comes through here. berries and caramel. there is some earthiness in there. it finishes dry after it starts out a touch sweet.

M: thin and carbed. it massages the tongue.

O: a really good sour. i would definitely drink this if you can get the choice.

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Photo of thagr81us
4.32/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this one during the 'We Want The Funk!' tasting that was graciously hosted by beermeX2! Big thanks goes out to beermeX2 for sharing this one with the group! Bottle #82 of 230! Served from bottle into a Mikkeller flute. Poured a reddish brown with half finger off-white head that subsided to a minimal amount slowly. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, cherry, sour, and vinegar. The flavor was of sweet malt, sour, vinegar, and fruit. It had a light feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this was a pretty good brew. I have actually been to this brewpub quite a few times before and haven't been OVERLY impressed with some of their beers, however, this one surprised me. Had a very nice flavor profile going on here as well as aroma. The vinegar aspect I picked up on in this one really tied the entire beer together. The fruit character in this one also made a nice contribution to it as well. A really well done beer for sure. Just hate they made so little of it... A definite must try and probably my favorite brew from Natty Greene's to-date.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.53/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

almost a cherry wood color with light ruby highlights peaking around the edges of the glass. a small tan head rises up, not too high but never fades leaving nice concentric lacing all the way down.

aroma is wonderfully balanced, just a fantastic blend of tart cherries, wood, light notes of vinegar, plums, all sorts of dark fruits and a wonderfully balanced sour profile. smooth and effortless each sip was truly a pleasure and really set this apart with its depth. hints of leather, tobacco, smooth fruit notes, a touch of vanilla in the finish, it literally had it all and really you could not ask for much more. nice and clear with the long lasting note of cherry on the palate

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Photo of craytonic
4.3/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Shout out to SpencerDB for the hookup - DSTK for life

Appearance: Pour is a rusty, muddy mississippi brown with decent head and lacing

Smell: Tart and lemony with tart cherries, light vinegar, oak, leather and dates

Taste: Very soft, sour, tart and enjoyable - tart cherries and apples followed by light vinegar, oak, leather, brown sugar and dates. Reminds me of a lighter consecration. Very drinkable.

Mouthfeel: Well carbonated, medium body

Overall: Makes me wish I still lived in NC and that this beer was readily available! I hope they expand the program and do more of this, serious potential on display.

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Photo of OddNotion
4.77/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Generously shared with me by bs870621345, Bobby. Thank you for the great opportunity! 750ml bottle poured into my Russian River Belgian glass. Bottle 59/230.

Appearance: Dark ruby red color with a very small off white head. Carbonation is not particularly active.

Smell: Well right off the bat it smells like cat poop in a litter box for lack of a better term. However after about twenty minutes in the glass it really opens up and smells like a great sour should. Nice and sour with a good amount of funk to it.

Taste: Hot damn this is nice and sour. I love how intensely sour this is! Some dark fruits in the background and some oakiness. Perfect flavor for the style and if this was normally available I would buy this all the time.

Mouthfeel: Relatively heavy for the style, but it fits perfectly for the beer. Carbonation is there to balance out the "thickness".

Overall: I had no real expectations going into this, but I was blown away. This beer is damn near perfect and I wish I could buy this on a regular basis. Nice and sour but just dry enough at the end of the sip.

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Photo of bs870621345
4.53/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle number 59 out of 230. Split with Oddnotion, Jessee.

Pours a deep brown color with a little bit of head but leaves a great lacing down the glass.

Smell is of vinegar, lemon, dark fruit, funk, and oak.

Taste is dark fruits up front, moves into a lemon and vinegar tartness, finishes with a very strong oak, fruit, funk and lemons. Its nice, not too acidic and nicely balanced.

Mouthfeel is full and not carbonated enough. Needs some time.

Overall, its damn good. Would love to see some reviews of this bad boy.

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Photo of GrandCruDrew
4.07/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to sincereNc for this one. #120 of 230 bottles. Poured from a 750mL bottle into my Ommegang Rouge Tulip.

A- Dark Amber in color, good carbonation, 1/2 inch head that looks like a creamy texture. Some lacing.

S- Smells of caramel, toffee, sourness, funk, and some acid. Also sour cherries and other dark red fruits. Definitely that fruity bubble gum smell that I love.

T- Taste resembles the nose. Tastes of sour caramel, toffee, tart cherries, some oak, good acidity, but not overly so. It has everything I like and love in a Flemish Sour. Comparable to La Roja, Rodenbach Grand Cru, Ommegang Rouge, Supplication, Red Poppy, etc. Not bad at all for a little unknown brewery to me.

M- The feel is good, but has a short finish. Has some tartness and sharpness to it.

Overall- I didn't have any expectations, if I did, I'm sure this would have topped them. I enjoyed this beer very much. If they brewed this seasonal or year-round, I would def partake in this one!


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Photo of brentk56
4.1/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle 176 of 230

Appearance: Pours a rusty burnt orange color with a magnificent head that leaves squiggles of lace all around

Smell: Tart aromatics with a range of fruity undertones, including apples and pears, white wine vinegar, with layers and layers of oak

Taste: There is just a hint of caramel in the front but the acetic tartness quickly pushes it to the back; as tartness develops, the fruit (tart apple, grape and pear) adds complexity; after the swallow, however, there is a lack of follow through in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation; slightly aqueous

Overall: It is great to see a brewer tackle a sour here in NC as most of them have shied away from these styles; while this is not a great sour, it is very good and I look forward to seeing more examples in this genre from Natty's going forward

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Photo of Verecund
3.3/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle #3 of 230. Opened on March 26, 2011.

Pours a cloudy and almost opaque mix between burgundy and dark sangria. It's as if someone bled into a dirty river. Almost no head, just a thin ring around the glass, but some scattershot lacing.

A surprisingly nice and true-to-style nose. Crushed blackcurrants and dried vine fruits (like black corinth grapes), tons of oak and contrasting acetic acid. A hint of berry sweetness peeks through the otherwise prickly tart aroma.

230th opens on the palate with some miscellaneous tart berriness that tingles in the throat. The acidity showcases black grapes, like those found on the nose, but the mid-to-late palate is disappointingly watery. Quite acidic, but the taste is a let down from the nose - what remains is more of a pleasant mix of tart and sour, acetic and lactic acidity, but not enough dark fruit or oakiness to be interesting or to style. Very acetic - you can feel the acidity tingle halfway down your throat.

Medium-bodied, though a bit thin mid- and late-palate. Nice and tart, but there isn't enough contrast or heft here.

Not a bad first attempt. I'm excited to try future sour offerings, but this is only a partial success for me. Great nose, but the flavor falls off halfway in and the body is too thin for my tastes. I'll have to revisit down the road.

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Photo of Onibubba
4.3/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Auburn pour with a short lived beige head. Spot on for the style. No lacing to speak of. Sweet tart sour smell. Wonderful woody sourness, with that same sweet tart / warhead bite. The sourness has a nice lingering quality to it. I am surprised to find myself saying this, but this beer is firmly in Rodenbach Grand Cru territory. Exceptionally well done. Natty Green should scrap all of their other efforts, and concentrate soley on the production of this beer.

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Photo of tpd975
4.1/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to the NC boys for letting me try this one at pre-sex.

A: Pours an amber like shade of brown with a small off white head.

S: Nice light sour aromas. Tart cherry, vinegar, oak, and a dash of crushed sweet tarts.

T: Lightly sour. Tart cherries, lemon zest, and mild vinegar. The oak is there in a mild sort of way as well. Nothing to bold here, nice light flavors that tend to meld really well.

M: On the lighter side of medium, nice light carbonation to carry the flavors.

D: One I would love to try again. Great little beer from a brewery I had never even heard of.

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230th Anniversary American Sour Ale from Natty Greene's Pub & Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 89 out of 100 with 36 ratings