Bayernbiere Bought and Drunk

No need to feel sorry - as we all know, taste is subjective. I had the Urtyp Hell, not the Barock, and I'm not sure of the differences in the two beers. As I recall, the beer seemed too crisp, and when I think of Münchner Helles, I think of a maltier brew than this was. Also, I wonder at the low ABV, I would like to see a helles at least over 5%, something beefier at 5.5 would have been appropriate IMO. It may also be a mistake that I use Augustiner Edelstoff as "the bar", I consider it to be the best.

The 1050 was just OK, I guess going by the name I wanted/I was expecting a deeper, richer beer. Again, like the helles, it wasn't bad beer, it just didn't "wow" me like the hefeweizen did.

In the meantime, I had the Asam Bock which I must admit, these words were o-so-true from your review

This is not Optimator or Salvator, nor do I think it should be, this is a tasty, smooth drinking beer. As so many breweries in Germany make their own interpretation of a style, I can't second-guess this one* as it's very tasty.

Solid stuff, could use a bit more complexity, but I enjoyed it immensely with my Bratwurst, Sauerkraut and Bratkartoffeln.

 

I have the 1050 slated for a revisit tonight, I'll try to add some thoughts then, but I had the Wintertraum last night and -- while a bit stale, was pretty good (again).

I checked my reviews and see that I really liked the Dunkelweizen, but wasn't so impressed by the ordinary Weizen. To be honest, I have the feeling that my source isn't carrying the freshest stock at all times.

And I didn't see the Dunkel or Bock in stock anymore.

 

9 inches of (wet) snow yesterday afternoon -- didn't get to the beer. Is it Spring yet?

 

I had a 2nd bottle of the 1050 again yesterday and I stand by my original analysis - decent beer, subtle caramel tones, but nothing spectacular. I wanted to like it more. Just one man's opinion.

 

I'll meet you on the Donau and buy you a Weizen, you can reciprocate with an Anno!

 

In the meantime, I could send you a fresh sample. Maybe you could send something cool from your area to reciprocate.

 

I went to a Getränkemarkt yesterday to pick up a sample case for boddhitree and while I was there I also took a close look at the stickers on the variety of Weltenburger they had there. As it turns out, all Weltenburger except the Barock Dunkel and the Asam Bock are brewed by Bischofshof in Regensburg. Before those 2 started cooperating those 2 beers were also the only Weltenburger beers I even knew. I have a feeling that it's basically just Bischofshof with a different label...

 

Sounds like research is in order.

There are always questions when one brewery contracts another's beers, but often times you find out that the cooperation is pretty respectful and the "contractor" will follow the "contractee's" recipe well. Then again, if it saves money to just brew a larger batch and relabel, who knows?

 

If you had any of the Oktoberfest, I could be drawn into negotiations!

 

I've never even seen that one and I live less than 20 miles from the brewery...

 

I doubt I'll bother...

 

Having seen a lot of this in Germany, I would tend to agree with this assumption. Only problem is, I didn't see a Bischofshof beer on the webpage which was similar to this.

 

So, their best two beers are still brewed at the Klosterbrauerei? Makes sense. We were there in 2010 and got a tour of the brewery. He served us some Asam Bock straight out of the lagering tank. It was wonderful!

 

Tony, I took note of: “I'm not quite sure exactly how this compares to a Pilsner Urquell, but in my memory, this beer is a little thinner but milder than that famous beer. Over, I really like this beer. It's made with solely Bohemian ingredients, maybe, but maybe the yeast that they're using is what gives it a distinct Germanness to it.”

One of the distinguishing features of a Bohemian Pilsner vs. a German Pilsner (in my opinion) is the body of the beer. In my opinion a Bohemian Pilsner should have a higher final gravity. Since you are a homebrewer, below are what I think a German Pilsner should be vs. a Bohemian Pilsner:

· German Pilsner: OG = 1.050, FG = 1.010
· Bohemian Pilsner: OG = 1.050, FG = 1.015

As an example I have a Bohemian Pilsner that is lagering right now (to be bottled this week) and my OG was 1.053 and the reading at transfer to the carboy for lagering was 1.020. I am hoping that this gravity will come down 2-3 points when I take a reading at bottling.

So, the attenuation that is achieved in a given beer is based upon the fermentability of the wort and the attenuation ability of the yeast used. I wouldn’t be surprised that the brewery mashed to create a fermentable wort and used a house lager yeast strain which would result in a beer with high attenuation.

I like the part of your description of:

“Bright golden color, almost yellow, but with a noticeable haze, which is a good sign that it wasn't filtered, with yeast sediment sitting on the bottom of my glass, I'd have to say it was filtered but not finely filtered, (bottle conditioned?) allowing a protein haze to persist. The head is quite strong, clear clean white. A typical Pils, so far, or Kellerbier.”

I really, really like unfiltered (or not finely filtered) beers with one of my favorites being what I call a Keller Pils (e.g., Southampton Keller Pils).

Cheers!

 

Is this the Max Brauerei from Altenstadt Bayern?
I was there about 2 years ago. Really small brewery. I appreciated the brewer's passion and willingness to brew non-German styles, but the results were.......how do I say.......not very good. Even his German styles were off. I'm hopeful things have improved in the two years since my visit.
After the tour we were given a bier probe (using plastic cups). When the bierprobe ended, there was no way in h*ll I was going to buy an additional beer there......it was that disappointing.
The beer review above gives me hope things have improved there. I may even try the beers again someday if given the chance.
I wish them well.
Ps- I think they were going to be at that Munich beer festival that is coming up (or already took place?).

 

Braukunst Live is next weekend

 

Yep, that's the one.....

I checked the bier line-up for the Braukunst Live event, and Max Brauerei has 4 beers on offer. I've had 2 of the 4 (IPA and Bock). Please give those two a taste and tell me what you think. If you say they are good, then I will assume that the brewery has much improved from when I visited on March 31, 2011. I await your review!